Another new Brexit thread

[Ban-jani]

Completely agree, which is why it would be nonsensical to "threaten" the EU with no deal

It would be from our perspective but they probably think we’re nuts enough to do it so it may carry some sway.

I don’t agree it’s the right course of action as a negotiating tactic.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Well I’m glad to see we are all getting along so much better now

It is heartening to see, isn’t it?

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

You are Olly Robbins & I claim my £5.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

It would be from our perspective but they probably think we’re nuts enough to do it so it may carry some sway.

I don’t agree it’s the right course of action as a negotiating tactic.

Potentially but it's a bloody dangerous game to play, especially if they call our bluff.

 

[SebastianBlue]

You are Olly Robbins & I claim my £5.

We are all Olly Robbins.

 

[Len Rum]

No, he was tucked up in his Communist Party branded PJ’s, making love to a life-sized cardboard cut out of Fidel Castro.

Nah.
Che Guevara mate

 

[SebastianBlue]

Nah.
Che Guevara mate

I hear that makes a very good sauce to drizzle on porridge.

 

[Ban-jani]

Potentially but it's a bloody dangerous game to play, especially if they call our bluff.

I agree.

 

[Ban-jani]

Nah.
Che Guevara mate

My apologies, good old murdering Che it is.

 

[blueinsa]

Potentially but it's a bloody dangerous game to play, especially if they call our bluff.

Indeed but bluffs need to be called both ways.

 

[BobKowalski]

That says to me then that a substantive deal will have to be agreed by the end of June as there is no way that fishing or financial services will be signed off by the UK without agreement on things we want.

I still expect a deal to be agreed (with possibly some things parked) but clearly the UK is going to be as equally aggressive in the negotiations as the EU so there is a chance that they will break down fairly quickly.

There is no chance of a substantive deal by December let alone June.

There was ‘no way’ we were going to pay £39 billion or put a border in the Irish Sea so there’s that and besides we don’t know what a deal on fishing will look like - although I presume it will be on the Norwegian model - so we don’t know whether we will sign off or not.

In any event that is what we agreed to in the WA and like a lot of things in the WA that are not in our favour if we don’t like them then we shouldn’t have signed up to them.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

There is no chance of a substantive deal by December let alone June.

There was ‘no way’ we were going to pay £39 billion or put a border in the Irish Sea so there’s that and besides we don’t know what a deal on fishing will look like - although I presume it will be on the Norwegian model - so we don’t know whether we will sign off or not.

In any event that is what we agreed to in the WA and like a lot of things in the WA that are not in our favour if we don’t like them then we shouldn’t have signed up to them.

I reckon there will be a deal but that's just an opinion. If you are right there clearly won't be one and we will go to WTO terms..

 

[Vic]

They hate the country and the people so much because there are some who hold a different opinion to them?

I've never gotten that mentality; if you have that much hate in your soul for a nation and it's people, why not just move?

Hate? What hate?

Here be monsters of your own imagination.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

Someone on the Guardian has posted to say that when they opened the curtains this morning everything seemed smaller and the horizon had become considerably more closed in.

Has anyone on here noticed this phenomenon as everything seems the same looking out from my window.

 

[Ban-jani]

Someone on the Guardian has posted to say that when they opened the curtains this morning everything seemed smaller and the horizon had become considerably more closed in.

Has anyone on here noticed this phenomenon as everything seems the same looking out from my window.

Why the fuck are you reading the Guardian?

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

Why the fuck are you reading the Guardian?

There are some interesting things on there (mainly non political) & the comments about Brexit can be a good laugh (like the one above).

 

[carlosthejackal]

Stacey and Tracey

 

[BobKowalski]

I reckon there will be a deal but that's just an opinion. If you are right there clearly won't be one and we will go to WTO terms..

I agree there will be a deal just as there was a deal in phase one. I don’t see the point in rehashing the same old arguments about what we will or will not do given our experience of the last three years.

Johnson had a choice in phase 1 when the penny finally dropped that the EU were not going to throw Ireland under a bus. Our choice in phase 1 was binary. An Irish land border or an Irish sea border. Not Alternative Arrangments or a high tech invisible border or whatever. Not even ‘no deal’. We chose a sea border. And again in phase 2 we will agree to options that we don’t initially like.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

Someone on the Guardian has posted to say that when they opened the curtains this morning everything seemed smaller and the horizon had become considerably more closed in.

Has anyone on here noticed this phenomenon as everything seems the same looking out from my window.

For someone who thinks the guardian is a load of rubbish you don't half read it a lot :)

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

For someone who thinks the guardian is a load of rubbish you don't half read it a lot :)

I don't think it's a load of rubbish. I just don't agree with it politically.