COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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waspish said:
A vaccine is being tested now if it works or not we don’t know but Like I said on here last week they’ll be a Vaccine in 2 months for this.
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It is unlikely that a high-efficacy vaccine will be available in 2 months, mate. I think you may be thinking of when a few biomed companies, including one China-based biomed company, have said they were looking to start trials.

These are fairly good write-ups about vaccine development efforts and timelines, including possible issues that can arise with them.

Why we shouldn't pin our hopes on a coronavirus vaccine
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/coronavirus-vaccine-china

How Close Are We to a Coronavirus Vaccine?
https://slate.com/technology/2020/02/coronavirus-vaccine-possibility-sars-wuhan-research.html
 
Not at all surprising, unfortunately. Depending on how bad the outbreak really is, how much worse/better it gets, and how long the overall disruption to Chinese society and economy lasts, this could have a profound impact on Chinese perception of the inherent power of the state, and so embolden citizens to express dissent and generally question the legitimacy of party governance. It may never get there, of course, but the bureau cannot risk it.

 
waspish said:
A vaccine is being tested now if it works or not we don’t know but Like I said on here last week they’ll be a Vaccine in 2 months for this.
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I’d be surprised if you can get vaccinated for Coronavirus before the end of this year, never mind in two months.
 
Tricky_Trev said:
Still within this country people seem oblivious to the reality of this virus. We’ll see in a few months how much of a joke it is. I don’t trust anything China say about it, it’s definitely miles worse than what they want people to know. I get not wanting to panic the entire planet, but it’s still odd how many people here think we’re fine and dandy just because we’re not third world. They worry more about the masked fucking singer. Says it all.
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What can be more important than the masked singer?
 
SebastianBlue said:
It’s a good point.

Here is a decent article comparing the seasonal flu with the novel coronavirus (based on what is currently known, of course).

https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

The seasonal flu should be taken seriously, but a novel virus outbreak is a different situation, especially one with very troubling epidemiological modelling based on current information (which is still fairly limited due to Chinese government control of info flow from the primary infection zone and purported index centroid).

It doesn’t have to be one or the other.
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Oh I agree. Just saying that people never seem to be that bothered about these things, as what’s going on tomorrow or in the next half an hour seems more important because we’re all so busy and have so many responsibilities.

It’ll only be when it happens to someone we know that it’ll hit home.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Oh I agree. Just saying that people never seem to be that bothered about these things, as what’s going on tomorrow or in the next half an hour seems more important because we’re all so busy and have so many responsibilities.

It’ll only be when it happens to someone we know that it’ll hit home.
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Completely agree.
 
SebastianBlue said:
It is unlikely that a high-efficacy vaccine will be available in 2 months, mate. I think you may be thinking of when a few biomed companies, including one China-based biomed company, have said they were looking to start trials.

These are fairly good write-ups about vaccine development efforts and timelines, including possible issues that can arise with them.

Why we shouldn't pin our hopes on a coronavirus vaccine
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/coronavirus-vaccine-china

How Close Are We to a Coronavirus Vaccine?
https://slate.com/technology/2020/02/coronavirus-vaccine-possibility-sars-wuhan-research.html
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Not pinning hopes on anything when your time is up It up!

You probably right about vaccine I watched a program that said they had a vaccine that going it be tested and when it usually takes up to 9 to 12 months in the past with the new technology now they got it to trials in 2 weeks.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Oh I agree. Just saying that people never seem to be that bothered about these things, as what’s going on tomorrow or in the next half an hour seems more important because we’re all so busy and have so many responsibilities.

It’ll only be when it happens to someone we know that it’ll hit home.
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Most people don’t give a shit about climate change or species extinction which are infinitely bigger threats.

Most people are wired towards assessing the immediate and using heuristics as a method for decision making. Planning for something that they cannot see or has not previously happened is beyond them,
 
chabal said:
Most people don’t give a shit about climate change or species extinction which are infinitely bigger threats.

Most people are wired towards assessing the immediate and using heuristics as a method for decision making. Planning for something that they cannot see or has not previously happened is beyond them,
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Very true. That’s mostly due to our brains still being tuned to relatively short nomadic lives, which placed a premium on short-term risk assessment and mitigation. For the vast majority of our existence as a species we did not have to plan beyond a 20-40 year timeframe (our lifespan) or for most issues we now encounter in “civilised” life, and even then the vast majority of effort was applied to daily planning. This means it is quite literally difficult for us to value long-term planning, much less effectively do it, even with societal planning tools like cultural memory, writing, and forecasting that we have developed.

These types of “natural” viral outbreaks are unfortunately fairly good examples of those still present limitations, even despite our quite amazing advancements in science, engineering, communications, and public management which allow us to combat them.
 
This sort of thing is absolutely deplorable and serves as just another example of the horrible instances of subtle (or not-so-subtle) discrimination and abuse of innocent people of Asian heritage in the UK and elsewhere based on ignorant (or in some cases outright racist) reactions to the coronavirus outbreak.

 
SebastianBlue said:
This sort of thing is absolutely deplorable and serves as just another example of the horrible instances of subtle (or not-so-subtle) discrimination and abuse of innocent people of Asian heritage in the UK and elsewhere based on ignorant (or in some cases outright racist) reactions to the coronavirus outbreak.

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I won’t click on the Guardian - what did he do?
 
Ban-jani said:
I won’t click on the Guardian - what did he do?
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“Dele Alli has apologised for a video posted on his Snapchat account in which the Tottenham and England midfielder appeared to mock an Asian man and joke about the coronavirus outbreak.

Alli, who has been on holiday during his club’s winter break, posted the video of him wearing a face mask in an airport departure lounge on Saturday with the message: “Corona whattt, please listen with volume.” The 23-year-old then zooms the camera towards an unsuspecting man of Asian appearance before panning to a bottle of antiseptic hand wash captioned: “This virus gunna have to be quicker than that to catch me.””
 
SebastianBlue said:
“Dele Alli has apologised for a video posted on his Snapchat account in which the Tottenham and England midfielder appeared to mock an Asian man and joke about the coronavirus outbreak.

Alli, who has been on holiday during his club’s winter break, posted the video of him wearing a face mask in an airport departure lounge on Saturday with the message: “Corona whattt, please listen with volume.” The 23-year-old then zooms the camera towards an unsuspecting man of Asian appearance before panning to a bottle of antiseptic hand wash captioned: “This virus gunna have to be quicker than that to catch me.””
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Alli is a fucking obnoxious chav.
 
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