COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
Yay.
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SebastianBlue said:
This is a fairly good overview of the current and potential future global economic impact of this coronavirus outbreak, a second order effect that can be as devastating in the long-term (though obviously in a different way) to China and the world-at-large as the horrible direct impact on human life of the illness itself.

The coronavirus is already hurting the world economy. Here's why it could get really scary.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/08/business/coronavirus-global-economy/index.html
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Looking on the bright side, the Brexit Project Fear crew have found gainful alternative employment.
 
SebastianBlue said:
@TheRemainsOfTheDave is correct.

General findings are that the general use masks are helpful in reducing pathogen transmission through droplet dispersion by the person wearing it, but only if regularly replaced and coupled with constant hand washing (as people still constantly touch the masks as they do their faces).

There is very little to no evidence that they protect against violent aerosol dispersion (sneezing/coughing) of pathogens, either for the wearer or those around them, and can actually increase transmission if not used properly (i.e not disposing of them properly, sharing masks, or not regularly washing your hands).

They are primarily used in medicine (consultation, surgery, etc.) to reduce transmission through (non-aerosol) fluid exchange and to make patients feel better about the cleanliness of the treatment space (which, believe it or not, is actually somewhat impactful on recovery rates). There are specialised masks that are more effective, but those are not widely available and tend to be very expensive.

Coughing/sneezing in to your elbow away from other people, constant proper hand washing, and quarantining yourself when you think you may be sick are still the best methods of hindering transmission, short of wearing a hazmat/bio hazard suit and going through constant decon procedures.
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I can confirm that these masks don't help anyone in plague inc once I have the sneezing and vomiting mutations.
 
SebastianBlue said:
@TheRemainsOfTheDave is correct.

General findings are that the general use masks are helpful in reducing pathogen transmission through droplet dispersion by the person wearing it, but only if regularly replaced and coupled with constant hand washing (as people still constantly touch the masks as they do their faces).

There is very little to no evidence that they protect against violent aerosol dispersion (sneezing/coughing) of pathogens, either for the wearer or those around them, and can actually increase transmission if not used properly (i.e not disposing of them properly, sharing masks, or not regularly washing your hands).

They are primarily used in medicine (consultation, surgery, etc.) to reduce transmission through (non-aerosol) fluid exchange and to make patients feel better about the cleanliness of the treatment space (which, believe it or not, is actually somewhat impactful on recovery rates). There are specialised masks that are more effective, but those are not widely available and tend to be very expensive.

Coughing/sneezing in to your elbow away from other people, constant proper hand washing, and quarantining yourself when you think you may be sick are still the best methods of hindering transmission, short of wearing a hazmat/bio hazard suit and going through constant decon procedures.
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Seen a couple of experts on the news hear saying don't use them unless it's the hospital grade ones as they are useless,the hospital ones are nothing to do with making the patient feel better,barrier nursing is all about protecting the staff so they don't spread it
 
AliBobbyJ said:
Infected people quarantined in their homes, local authorities blockading highways to stop travel, trade & the economy disrupted, doctors making heroic efforts to treat patients then catching the sickness themselves and dying of it, panic making people resort to desperate & absurd remedies. ... All documented responses to the last outbreak of bubonic plague/Black Death in England in 1665. Samuel Pepys complained that the trade in wigs had stopped as they were made from human hair, in Paris it was said that the rich fled, leaving the poor to die, in many places in Europe the Jews were blamed for the disease, while in Italy a doctor recommended hanging live toads round the neck as a sure way to ward off infection. We've moved on since then....
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I'd like to add to this that one of the few sensible methods used to stop the spread of the Bubonic Plague was the wholesale extermination of cats.
 
karen7 said:
Leave my pussy out of it you
Are you going to wembley? might see you in the pub if you are
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You stay away from Wembley, you plague carrying corpse-zombie. You'll infect the entire fanbase. Go to a dipper match instead.
 
karen7 said:
Seen a couple of experts on the news hear saying don't use them unless it's the hospital grade ones as they are useless,the hospital ones are nothing to do with making the patient feel better,barrier nursing is all about protecting the staff so they don't spread it
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I was referring to the hospital grade ones and I have said they are used in medical practice to reduce transmission via non-aerosol fluid exchange, but “making patients feel better” is definitely one of the benefits of using them. :-)
 
For those on here also currently living in the US, you’ll be happy to know that Trump’s new proposed budget released today further cuts CDC funding (after previously cutting it twice already).
 
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