UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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tolmie's hairdoo said:
I think CAS is more or less telling UEFA to bring it on if they dare.

Be it on their head.
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Is it remotely possible that the ones who want to insist on uefa serving a ban on City will be asked to contribute to the obvious legal costs this will lead to?
If the top table members feel so strongly they ought to back their mouths with limitless cash like City no doubt will do on their side.
 
Prater70 said:
Reading article in the Independent today. Doesn't look good. Any decision taken against us would be mirrored by Premiership.
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That is complete bullshit though, as Tony Evans would know if he were a remotely competent reporter that Premier League FFP and UEFA FFP are completely different regulations with very different standards.
 
Prater70 said:
Reading article in the Independent today. Doesn't look good. Any decision taken against us would be mirrored by Premiership.
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Is that the Tony Evans article. Seems a bit more like wishful thinking than anything else. I wonder which club would benefit most from the points deduction he thinks is the obvious option. The other thing he (and a few others) tends to do that I don't like is repeat this claim that if we win, it's the end of financial controls. Almost as if we need to lose for the good of the game.
 
domalino said:
That is complete bullshit though, as Tony Evans would know if he were a remotely competent reporter that Premier League FFP and UEFA FFP are completely different regulations with very different standards.
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Not only that but Premier League FFP didn't exist in the reporting period in question.
 
Prater70 said:
Reading article in the Independent today. Doesn't look good. Any decision taken against us would be mirrored by Premiership.
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Is that Evans' piece? He's a full-on Scouse provocateur, and I think it's over-egged significantly (or just plain misunderstood) about domestic interest in FFP. As if that would ever be decided before the season ends. The rest of it is mostly commentary/opinion.
 
Kenward Garg said:
If I was a betting man I’d put my money on Livarpool. From the outside, it seems to me that the Glazers don’t particularly care about winning: it’s just business. John W. Henry is a sports owner who wants to enrich himself but he also wants to win in the process.

There’s a scene at the end of the film “Moneyball” - I highly recommend it by the way - that can enlighten you to his mindset. What’s more enlightening is the reports coming out of the USA in respect to his baseball franchise; doping, stealing of signs and illegality.
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I think all owners of PL clubs are in it for the money.

Lets be fair our owner knew he would be not welcome yet chose to buy City as an investment.
The others feared this because that is what he does successfully in many other sectors.
His investment is maturing nicely so the others had better get used to it.
 
Aytoun said:
Pathetic nonsense article & at the end saying makes the game feel dirty ha ha no mention of EUFA FFP being written by gill for the absolute benefit of the other cartel teams. Now that really is the dirty bit.
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Hypocrisy runs deep,
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
It has taken our media a long time to realise that UEFA do not have a leg to stand on. If they try to ban us City will destroy them in the courts. CFG operates globally and the damages and costs would be huge. The senior leaders at UEFA would lose their jobs...and they know it.
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If City go nuclear in the courts I doubt UEFA would still exist after the dust settles.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
The truly big cases are only ever won by someone who has the motivation and deeper pockets to keep it in litigation.

Goodness knows what it costs to keep a QC on retainer, never mind all the other expertise from separate firms and abroad?

I suspect a letter costs more than £40 an hour!

This has to be a consideration for UEFA, when also factoring in their own legal costs?

If it does go nuclear in CAS, where every cough and splutter would seemingly be allowed, the burden of proof must surely lie at the feet of UEFA, as they only have hacked email reports from Football Leaks website, and we have subsequently provided context and supporting evidence.

That's when reputational damage also comes in to it?

Must be talking tens of millions.
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CAS has, I understand, previously admitted documents that were obtained in a dubious manner. So how the docs were obtained isn’t quite the gotcha we would like.

What’s interesting at the moment is the delay in the Adjudicatory Chamber decision. If they are to simply review or endorse the lower chamber decision I cannot understand from a legal standpoint why this would be delayed.

The submissions to CAS do suggest that UEFA were in a rush to bring matters forward. That may mean they failed to fully investigate the matter in the time allowed. Certainly the scope document only coming to light late is an issue.


It may be that UEFA is in a little bit of difficulty. Firstly if it bans us and we appeal we have good grounds to appeal and possibly pursue a defamation claim. Alternatively if the Adjudicatory Chamber doesn’t impose punishment there is still a potential defamation claim.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
The sign stealing was at a non FSG baseball team, wasn't it?
An exec from that team subsequently went to an FSG team, and has now been sacked as a result of being given a ban from baseball.

Not sure what the other issues are.
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Alex Cora was involved in sign stealing at Houston Astros in 2017 but when he was at Boston Red Sox he (allegedly) did it again in their 2018 World Series win. The MLB's investigation into the Red Sox continues.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...ams-press-conference-after-alex-coras-firing/
 
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