UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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I've always thought Stone was a very good journalist. But that doesn't mean I like him or agree with his reports. SOme of our enemies are capable you know.

Look we're going to the CAS now. UEFA hawks won for now. Making our enemies out to be morons when we're the ones facing a 2 year ban is a little silly. The implication is that our board have been outdone by simpletons and that isn't the case at all.

There is a difference between recognising the strength of your opponent and siding with them.

Marv. I have no beef with you but go to a City press conference sometime if you haven’t. Just watch how Stone conducts himself both in the Conference and outside.... his behaviour is reprehensible believe me. Quite why he isn’t banned from our club reflects badly on the club.
 
CAS is only the first step. Re-read the city statement again. Very clear that we're prepared to challenge UEFA, and indeed FFP and the damages, legally in court outside of a sporting environment. Do UEFA think FFP wills hold up in court? I think we're going to find out soon enough.

Even if we win at CAS, I don't think that is the end of it. How can we in the future play by the rules of an organisation that has sought us out for special retribution? We need to hurt them.

Interesting to read the rumours that Ceferin wanted us to accept the pinch again to avoid a ban. Likely he knew we were serious in our statements to fight it and wanted to avoid UEFA's name being dragged through the mud, but if there is any chance at all that it was fuelled by fear their process and decision, and indeed the evidence itself, was lacking, then I hope we were sensible enough to document all contact.

This will be fought. It will get messy. I still fail to see on what basis UEFA think they have more evidence to take further action.

Must be a discussion ongoing now at city as to whether we can provide the full emails purported to have been hacked, for CAS. If they clearly were misinterpreted, as our original statement suggested, then could be a relatively quick and embarrassing decision at CAS, for UEFA. Because not once have UEFA seemingly asked us for those emails in full. The released hack, handled via an unnamed and unknowingly motivated source, was seemingly enough at face value. We could rightly deny any knowledge of he emails, counter that possibly UEFA themselves concocted them.

As far as I know, there is no evidence we sent those emails, even if they have the right names of the employees. They could have been doctored, completely falseified, did UEFA check? Nope. Strange, that. Almost as if the evidence was not actually something they wanted to dwell on.

Honestly, if CAS is truly impartial, then this ban just can't be enforced. It's based off an excerpt of an unverified source, shoved into the right sized shape to fit Leterme's pre-existing will to see Manchester City punished by UEFA.

what if the emails were hacked and are indeed accurate?
 
CAS members

Who we picking, who UEFA picking & CAS
Name
Country
1. Abdullah Al Hayyan
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Kuwait
2. Tjasa Andrée-Prosenc
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Slovenia
3. Patrick Baumann Switzerland
4. Scott Blackmun
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United States
5. Alexandra Brilliantova
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Russia
6. Miguel Cardenal Carro
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Spain
7. John D. Coates
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Australia
8. Moya Dodd
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Australia
9. Nabil Elaraby
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Egypt
10. Ivo Eusebio
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Switzerland
11. Michael Lenard
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United States
12. Carole Malinvaud
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France
13. Yvonne Mokgoro
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South Africa
14. Ellen Gracie Northfleet
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Brazil
15. Göran Petersson
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Sweden
16. Dick Pound
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Canada
17. Corinne Schmidhauser
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Switzerland
18. Tricia C.M. Smith
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Canada
19. Wilhelmina Thomassen
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Netherlands
20. Hanqin Xue
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China
21. Matthieu Reeb
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Switzerland
22. Meles Zenawi Ethiopia
 
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Come on.... I’m sure a few calls will be made in the UAE to their intelligence services and a few favours called in. UEFA might be naive enough to think it’s them versus ‘lickle City’ but they have just declared war on the UAE and they can and should expect a serious ‘blitzkrieg’ .... the gloves are off and I expect us to dish some very serious dirt on our enemies - many of whom have plenty of skeletons in the cupboard.

If we have used the UAE intelligence services i hope we have a reciept from MCFC Football Club and head 3 other quotes to ensure we were being charged a fair market value, fuck me if Mr Mansuor has paid for this out of his own pocket we will be getting charged again next year :)
 
Our beef is not just the process but FFP itself. Would the argument that its very design in the beginning was to target our club and others like it (e.g. debt excluded, investment limited) be able to be raised at CAS or even the Swiss courts? Is it just the case as presented by UEFA that we are allowed to go for? Would we have to go to say the ECJ to raise that?
 
The first time they didn't "get away with it", we never challenged them - we agreed to take the fine, the "pinch". This time we've told them to fuck off and we'll fight it through CAS initially and quite possibly the civil courts as well.

I know that bit but everyone was saying chill out we will be fine but we weren't. I am weary of it, it is bad enough dealing with shit officials and var that seems skewed against us without all this talk of bans, points deductions and relegations hanging over us. Football is supposed to be fun, a form of entertainment and escapism, at the moment it is anything but. We are where we are I guess and this has to be put to bed once and for all whatever the outcome. I just don't have the confidence we will win like some here because I have heard it all before.
 
Get slated for this, but if a pinch was on offer should we not have took it.

We’d have been home free and could have concentrated on moving forward with next season.

Time will tell I suppose and maybe they just had enough of UEFA
 
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