UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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karen7 said:
A look in our trophy cabinent tells us we are not inocent and we are as guilty as hell? What kind of crap is that?
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Name a club that has had any period of success that hasn’t had investment in its squad? The investment comes first, then the income comes in later. You can’t have success without breaking their stupid rules.
 
Newman Noggs said:
Ha ha, smacks too much of victimhood. We're far from that. We're the only club with the bollocks and resources to take these fuckers on.
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Maybe true, but that is what is going on here imho.

Certain clubs want to destroy us and they're doing it via the media and uefa, luckily I don't think our owner is one for being bullied.
 
cjn said:
I'm putting some blame with the club for getting us to the point where we now have to pray that CAS gets it right, which is by no means assured, or else we face some really bad consequences. I don't care what business you're in, if you let a dispute go far enough that you have to win an appeal or else you lose £150m or whatever in revenue plus suffer massive reputation damage, you probably fucked up somewhere along the way. I agree with all of what you're saying. FFP is garbage, it's unfair, maybe even racist, but I think we messed this up. We should've just handled it the first time around, or settled, or de-escalated it. It's a mess.
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We settled in 2014,that was the deal,they have come back,we say we are not guilty,this ia a major business,there is no settling or de-escalting option here,we take a deal which implies a guilt and we zre finished with sponsers and fans and have to start again,we havNO option,we arw not here by choice,we didn't fuck up in 2014,we took the fine and the squad reduction and where did that get us
 
cleavers said:
They shouldn't have because the investigation concluded last Autumn, and as has been mentioned numerous times it had to be rushed to get it done before their own deadline.
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I know but the sudden change of tone in this saga is baffling. Despite what some have said on here I don't believe for one minute that Sam Lee of the Athletic didn't have good sources for his story saying "City would not be banned." So what changed?
 
M18CTID said:
Though not completely ruling it out, I’d be surprised if it was the latter. I think Der Spiegel released the “juiciest” bits in their articles, and each subsequent article got weaker in content. If they had something more damning, I doubt they would’ve hung onto it without revealing it.
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well, they're either bluffing or they have something, and I doubt we gave it to them, so I'm just hypothesising, not everyone in UEFA is a dunce and I'm sure of the lengths the darkest players in this saga will go to.
 
cjn said:
I agree! The "rules" such that they are were pretty specifically designed to fuck with us. But we didn't challenge them in court at the time and then said we were abiding by them, then maybe didn't. If you accept the rules you don't get to say they're bullshit when you get caught breaking them.
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It is quite clear UEFA investigations are to be drawn out affairs that cause maximum disruption when UEFA are dealing with City. To avoid long periods of litigation City "agreed to take the pinch" in 2014, believing this would end the matter once and for all. At no time did City accept any wrong doing and never "accepted the rules" simply saying that the club would be self sustaining within the next year. The club still maintains it has done nothing which has broken the rules but this is certainly not accepting the rules - it is simply to avoid a punishment which would be doubly unfair. One final point: this matter may well end in the ECJ but that could be years in the future and UEFA could have subjected City to any number of sanctions. Enterprises don't resort to litigation unless it's absolutely unavoidable. So the rules are bullshit and our club doesn't deal in meaningless and ludicrous "grey areas" and percentages of guilt and innocence, and it won't be judged by kangaroo courts (and certainly not by faint hearted fans always prepared to believe the worst of the club) but will go as far as is allowed to refute hostile and trumped up allegations.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I know but the sudden change of tone in this saga is baffling. Despite what some have said on here I don't believe for one minute that Sam Lee of the Athletic didn't have good sources for his story saying "City would not be banned." So what changed?
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Well the uefa leader was at our last 2 CL games, presumably for "discussions" as neither of them were particularly eye watering matches, so obviously they were looking to "punish" us with next to nothing, and we've told them to f*ck off this time.
 
Graeme Souness said:
Name a club that has had any period of success that hasn’t had investment in its squad? The investment comes first, then the income comes in later. You can’t have success without breaking their stupid rules.
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Rules are there to be circumvented legally, never broken. :-)

Business speak
 
SidJames said:
Everyone i know is already bored shitless with the Premier League procession to anoint their media darlings this Season.

Sy/BT are too thick to realize that less competition,means less interest,which means less subscribers.

Klopp already starting to act like Billy Big bollocks playing his Kids.

How long before he plays a team of reserves in the Premier League and TV viewers feel short changed.

The product is being damaged.

We gave Sky one of the best Premier Leagues in living memory and excellent viewing figures.The whole country was following events.

People are turning off already.Might come as a surprise to Sky/BT etc but Liverpool are the most hated and despised Club in the country.I never watch their games.I am not embarrassed to say my hatred for them is almost pathological,yes even worse than the Rags.
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this is all part of the dynamic of fucking City over, with 2012 and Agüeroooooo the new TV deal would have been much smaller. City v Coach Smashing ****s last season was also a great TV feast. Take away City and it would be a boring annual procession. That’s the paradox for the a Premier League cartel, fuck City and they fuck themselves, there is also the small matter that City earn precious coefficient points for England and with all respect Sheff Utd or even Arse or Trafford will end up with us down to three places quite soon.
 
A wise man above discussed the illegitimacy of FFP and that this could be a point of reference when discussing FFP with the club's detractors; be they journalist, blogger or social media narcissist. In respect to this, I've provided a link to a good piece of investigative journalism from, ironically, one of the club's detractors:

https://untold-arsenal.com/archives/79514
 
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