UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[maurizio]

I can't go through all these pages so I'm sure this has been posted already, but this was a really excellent analysis of the situation. Highly recommended:

https://ninetythreetwenty.com/blog/seeing-the-wood-for-the-ffps-manchester-city-uefa-go-to-war/

Thanks for posting this link. Definitely worth reading.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

A scouser I unfortunately know is always in group chats saying “Saudi Arabia” have threatened referees on our behalf and stuff like that.

He doesn’t even know which country the Sheikh is from.

He didn’t even know what we’re supposed to have done when I questioned him but still called us cheats.

Football fans are fucking stupid, that’s the problem.

Nailed it in one, pal. Same problem with rags and Liverpool fans in my workplace.

 

[M18CTID]

Villa were one of teams who voted in favour of FFP...

No they didn't:

Clubs sources say Fulham, West Brom, Manchester City, Aston Villa, Swansea and Southampton all voted against. Chelsea, who had initially been viewed as opponents of financial fair play regulations, voted in favour.

 

[dario2739]

A scouser I unfortunately know is always in group chats saying “Saudi Arabia” have threatened referees on our behalf and stuff like that.

He doesn’t even know which country the Sheikh is from.

He didn’t even know what we’re supposed to have done when I questioned him but still called us cheats.

Football fans are fucking stupid, that’s the problem.

That would only work if the Saudi Arabians are scarier than the Asian Betting Syndicates that are currently threatening them!

 

[Cobwebcat]

I’ve always wondered....if Company A buys something from Company B for say £100 and Company B then buys something from Company A for £100. How does anyone know it’s the same £100? Must be difficult to prove even if something was dodgy. It’s none of UEFAs business to question the non footballing company is it?

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

Stefan's blog for ninetythreetwenty is a brilliant forensic analysis of the position as he sees it. This follows the excellent pods over the weekend.

He know's what he is talking about:
The author is a more than 20 year English qualified lawyer, current public company Chief Executive Officer, former General Counsel, former financial adviser to the Board of Manchester City and an experienced litigator including in matters of complex accounting. He knows little or nothing about CAS jurisprudence or the Swiss Civil Code and freely admits he could be completely wrong on all of the above given the scarcity of public documents relating to these matters.

I know a couple of others have linked to the article but I've not seen any comment here about it. Essential reading if you can handle the legal-speak:.

 

[lionheart]

Our reputation as a club has been hammered and probably far more importantly the State of Abu Dhabi reputation has taken a beating....

The State of Abu Dhabi? Are you an American or something? Abu Dhabi is an Emirate, like Sharjah, Dubai, Ras Al Khaimah etc.., hence the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

 

[BillCarlisle]

I think we have far more to lose by not going after FFP, as UEFA and other interested parties that want to see City restricted or destroyed entirely have shown that FFP will continually be used to inhibit development and damage the club’s brand and standing.

PSG may not be in the same place now that they’ve gotten the seat at the table that City will never be offered.

That's the issue now. Any relationship which City may have had with the current UEFA heirachy will have broken down completely. The only way we'll be treated fairly in the future is by getting a fundamental change at the top. Let's face it, as far as this lot are concerned we're pariahs.

 

[kaz7]

Stefan's blog for ninetythreetwenty is a brilliant forensic analysis of the position as he sees it. This follows the excellent pods over the weekend.

He know's what he is talking about:
The author is a more than 20 year English qualified lawyer, current public company Chief Executive Officer, former General Counsel, former financial adviser to the Board of Manchester City and an experienced litigator including in matters of complex accounting. He knows little or nothing about CAS jurisprudence or the Swiss Civil Code and freely admits he could be completely wrong on all of the above given the scarcity of public documents relating to these matters.

I know a couple of others have linked to the article but I've not seen any comment here about it. Essential reading if you can handle the legal-speak:.

I like it but he is not a sports lawyer,is that not like a divorce lawyer talking about corporate law?

 

[Lancet Fluke]

and who in UEFA is responsible.

Rick and Dave say hi.

 

[paulchapo]

I was going to post at least we don't have to hear from that bitter bore Wenger, who droned on about us for years, how wrong could I be!

https://www.skysports.com/football/...an-arsene-wenger-says-rules-must-be-respected

 

[Parisian]

I think we have far more to lose by not going after FFP, as UEFA and other interested parties that want to see City restricted or destroyed entirely have shown that FFP will continually be used to inhibit development and damage the club’s brand and standing.

Going after FFP is not a sure success and could be a long process. Would UEFA let you enter their competition during this battle ? UEFA and FIFA can threaten the whole British association if one of his member dares to go to civil court. It happened with Sion if my memory is right. And Switzerland association slapped Sion with a big point penalty in the league which satisfied UEFA/FIFA.

I know your owner is more belligerent than PSG one but PSG won the appeal and didn't go further. They even accepted UEFA request about not renewing the QTA contract. And their brand is still damaged as they are seen as cheat like City.

Btw, i was on some OctagonUK account and the guy posted a study showing that, in general, the people don't really care about the moral value of a brand. So, i think City won't have too much damage on their quest for sponsors after being cleared. PSG is doing excellent these days despite all the past and present suspicions. City will be alright.

 

[el blue]

Where's Gary Cook when you need him!

 

[YaYa's Left Peg]

David Gill, John Aldridge, Kenny Daglish, Ryan Giggs, Imogen Thomas and Beanie the Horse.

You forgot Sam Quek.

 

[Keeper!]

The State of Abu Dhabi? Are you an American or something? Abu Dhabi is an Emirate, like Sharjah, Dubai, Ras Al Khaimah etc.., hence the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

Correct it is, but whatever , their reputation has taken a hiding, and when we win this case, those responsible will be sought.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

I can’t believe City haven’t asked CAS to consider extending any ban to all English clubs. There’s precedent to this and we shouldn’t be made to suffer alone.

The precedent only exists if we as a fanbase have cause the deaths of rival fans I think.

 

[grandsolo]

The State of Abu Dhabi? Are you an American or something? Abu Dhabi is an Emirate, like Sharjah, Dubai, Ras Al Khaimah etc.., hence the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

Open a dictionary. Look up STATE. See it has a few meanings, one that fits Keeper's post
:)

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

As a side note, everyone put your life savings on a Real Madrid penalty. We’re going to be rich, rich I tell ya!

In both legs and put your money on a red for us

 

[bluemoon32]

I know there might be a consensus to the opposite on here but i really can't see UEFA being quite as stupid as we'd like to believe.
Based on nothing but my gut instinct, i still think we'll end up serving a years ban from the CL

 

[BigBluey]

What happens if the FA charge us under FFP after CAS has ruled.
Do we have recourse to the English judicial system as well as the Swiss Supreme courts?