UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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To be fair Graeme Souness is an excellent pundit not biased at all or jumping on the bandwagon of city haters, He speaks his mind as he sees it and i give him credit for that.
I have no idea what Quinns promblem with city is though He seems bitter for what ever reasons about his time there. Perhaps his jealous of the amount of money that city players earn these days compare to his time their. If i ever bump in to him im going to ask him(im sure i will sometime ) even if his over six feet tall lol.He has recently been appointed as Interim deputy chief executive of FAI followin the sacking of John Delaney who had some shady transactions with Fai accounts and credit card including a personal loan to the Fai. John Delaney was also on Eufa Executive committe from which he had to resign also So i can only imagine what Eufa is a cartel of gangsters no doubt this is mor scandel that people dont know about! And the say City asr arrogant lol...
 
I think enough information has come out that we can already take a stab at what happened or at least Citys version of it.

The out of context emails say ADUG paid for Etihad which would be breaking FFP. We now know thanks to @Prestwich_Blue that this is not what actually happened and the executive council paid - fine by FFP.

Leterme has a history of ignoring evidence he doesn't like without justification. This is known from the PSG case where he ignored independent valuation to benefit PSG despite the objections of the other people on the investigatory panel.

If ADUG did not pay the sponsorship this would be recorded in bank statements/transfers which would be conclusive and "irrefutable"


Soriano says that the CFCB relied more on the out of context emails than anything the club gave them.


A possible narrative is forming about what happened in the IC.

But what are the AC doing in all this? Why did they rubber stamp it if it's so easily overturned at CAS, which it would be if that's what happened.
 
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marco said:
i dont know if you have caught up tonight on here PB,but as posted before,i fully expect UEFA to withdraw the ban and fine before the CAS review,thay have taken on more than they can chew and must now be thinking what the hell have we done
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So then the tables are turned.
What have UEFA got to hide?
Feck them right up.hahaha.
 
domalino said:
I think enough information has come out that we can already take a stab at what happened or at least Citys version of it.

The out of context emails say ADUG paid for Etihad which would be breaking FFP. We now know thanks to @Prestwich_Blue that this is not what actually happened and the executive council paid - fine by FFP.

Leterme has a history of ignoring evidence he doesn't like without justification. This is known from the PSG case where he ignored independent valuation to benefit PSG despite the objections of the other people on the investigatory panel.

If ADUG did not pay the sponsorship this would be recorded in bank statements/transfers which would be conclusive and "irrefutable"


Soriano says that the CFCB relied more on the out of context emails than anything the club gave them.


A possible narrative is forming about what happened in the IC.

But what are the AC doing in all this? Why did they rubber stamp it if it's so easily overturned at CAS, which it would be if that's what happened.
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Because the 2 chambers are one. The one that should represent independence, doesn’t.
 
My fear is that Uefa will pass an envelope under the table to someone high up in CAS to influence the decision. They will do anything and everything to not lose face in front of the football world. Don't rule out a sinister move by those high up in Uefa. I just feel uneasy about the whole thing being fair and unbiased.
 
Stop worrying. The idea that David Gill is still the Vice-President of UEFA, and still on the board of Man United tells you all you need to know. If that isn't a conflict of interest - I really don't know what is! I've heard that the main guy from UEFA who's perusing this case is a billionaire banker (despite getting bailed out by the taxpaying public because his bank collapsed). That's FFP for you folks. UEFA are corrupt as fuck. The real problem is that they didn't collapse this shambles of an organisation when they had the opportunity - when so many were found to be corrupt! They sacked a couple of people at the top of the pyramid - yet the corruption still filters down. Don't you worry UEFA - I'm taking one for the team on this and will do everything in my power to see justice prevail! You disgust me!
 
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One good point Soriano raised , which should be highlighted , is the fact no team anywhere in world football, have had their books scrutinised more than we have . Not just for FFP but also the Chinese investors and Silver lake would have gone through the accounts with a fine tooth comb , surely we haven't pulled the wool over all these corporate accountants and their high powered legal eagles only to be foiled by a pimply Portugese hacker in his bedroom and the German version of the Sunday sport..
 
citymad said:
My fear is that Uefa will pass an envelope under the table to someone high up in CAS to influence the decision. They will do anything and everything to not lose face in front of the football world. Don't rule out a sinister move by those high up in Uefa. I just feel uneasy about the whole thing being fair and unbiased.
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Then we should pass a fatter envelope to a few others even higher up. Or to a few shady but sharp as tacks lawyers to stitch up anyone who's against us. Make some shit stick, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the fat corrupt twats in uefa have accepted underage prostitutes, drugs and involvement with known gangsters. I bet it wouldn't be too difficult to pay the right people to uncover some 'evidence'. The fat cünts would probably drop quite a few charges against us quite quickly to stop that becoming public.
 
glyncity said:
One good point Soriano raised , which should be highlighted , is the fact no team anywhere in world football, have had their books scrutinised more than we have . Not just for FFP but also the Chinese investors and Silver lake would have gone through the accounts with a fine tooth comb , surely we haven't pulled the wool over all these corporate accountants and their high powered legal eagles only to be foiled by a pimply Portugese hacker in his bedroom and the German version of the Sunday sport..
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I don't think you need to worry about this. Our stance (CFG) is that the reasoning behind FFP is a flawed concept and not fit for purpose. It does not allow any club to progress (if you can only spend revenue you earn - how on earth can a club in the bottom half of the league table progress?). It's a totally flawed philosophy. Those clubs would have to attract the big football superstars, and sell their shirts, yet without any investment risk from the club owner. These UEFA cretins are deluded, and need to take early retirement. There is no club in the bottom half of the Premier League that will be able to purchase 60 million pound players just on their revenue and shirt sales/sponsorship's alone. That's ridiculous. Certain clubs have been able to attract certain players simply 'because' somebody bought a club and invested (took a big gamble) with their own money. I don't see any problem with that - as long as the owner isn't bank-rolling the club on loans - which our guy is certainly not doing. The only problem I see is bitterness and jealousy.
 
I have attended quite a few Fair Work and WorkCover hearings through my work over the last few years and although obviously not on the same scale as what we are battling now it still amazes me how underprepared people are when asked to present their evidence.
Most of the time this stems from the accuser(s) convincing themselves that what they are saying is actually true because it is what they want to be true.
UEFA have passed beyond that tipping point and they truely believe what they are accusing is correct even though as each day passes it’s looking increasingly like they do not have sufficient hard evidence to back up their claims
 
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