UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[flook]

with all the money being spent on lawyers, it's to be hoped they put the appeal in on time.....must be getting close to the cut off date now, and if the internet goes down, well we've all been there

 

[doobyedoobye]

I sincerely hope we take them all on but I can't see it personally. I expect we are posturing and once CAS overturn the ban we will expect an apology and then case closed...imo

 

[asahartford1]

thanks Kazzydeyna for a mature and reasoned response as opposed to all the crap I’ve received on here for my comment.

I have little knowledge of the law but always felt that if you were in the right then no problem, you win.

It seems, not the case, you need to win by playing games and out manoeuvring your opponent. Why I don’t know.

The main point of my concern is that by appointing a skilled, the best there is lawyer, just maybe, our basic argument of righteousness, regarding no initial defence or simple proof of legitimate funds transfers does not exist at all. We are going to have to fight this on a technicality which, while hopefully winning the case, will not ultimately absolve City from holier than thou innocence.

Because the people you are fighting in court are not after justice ,they are wanting to ban you at any cost, so you hire the best.
You do not need to be an expert in law to grasp that concept.
Ps sorry if I offended yesterday, I thought as did many others that you were on the wind up. Fair play for thinking outside of the box.

 

[richards30]

I sincerely hope we take them all on but I can't see it personally. I expect we are posturing and once CAS overturn the ban we will expect an apology and then case closed...imo

cant agree there mate as per the Soriano interview the club have finally got sick and tired of the negative headlines and narrative that all we done is spend money and get no credit for how their investment has improved the club, football and community? Also if we win at CAS we would still have this reputation of cheating our way to the top and with the bribery charges just been announced with UEFA officials, there is no better time to prove our innocence and show the world we were targeted by the system.

 

[Centurions]

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The main point of my concern is that by appointing a skilled, the best there is lawyer, just maybe, our basic argument of righteousness, regarding no initial defence or simple proof of legitimate funds transfers does not exist at all. We are going to have to fight this on a technicality which, while hopefully winning the case, will not ultimately absolve City from holier than thou innocence.

And for me, there is the proof that you're a wum at best.

 

[blueinsa]

And for me, there is the proof that you're a wum at best.

He wants us to take the Ted Bundy approach to defending ourselves.

Either that or as you say he is just a fucking wum. One of a number who you rarely see posting yet have come out of hibernation to give us their pearls of wisdom on this.

 

[Marvin]

cant agree there mate as per the Soriano interview the club have finally got sick and tired of the negative headlines and narrative that all we done is spend money and get no credit for how their investment has improved the club, football and community? Also if we win at CAS we would still have this reputation of cheating our way to the top and with the bribery charges just been announced with UEFA officials, there is no better time to prove our innocence and show the world we were targeted by the system.

In reality you and I can say what we want but when you've got a deeply partisan game, and a media that is ready to exploit that, Manchester City have little chance of changing perception.

We just have to try and win the case.

The Football Leaks evidence looks very flimsy now because it has been shown that the UAE state covers the Etihad sponsorship (not Sheikh Mansour) but such is the prejudice and racism amongst the liberal elite that even when the evidence is produced it is ignored, or twisted to present something else. David Conn was given this evidence. He acknowledged that it showed that the UAE state picked up their sponsorship bill but instead of shooting down the case against Manchester City, which he really should have done, he argued that this showed the extent of state support for Manchester city. This is a very weak argument. A flag-carrying airline in financial difficulty is going to be supported financially by its state.

The liberal establishment are quite prepared to see City go down despite what the evidence suggests.

 

[oldius]

Why would a world class business not appoint world class lawyers? Some nonsensical perspectives here.

 

[Gordyola]

with all the money being spent on lawyers, it's to be hoped they put the appeal in on time.....must be getting close to the cut off date now, and if the internet goes down, well we've all been there

Got 10 days I would expect these to be only working days so tomorrow is day 6

 

[Gordyola]

In reality you and I can say what we want but when you've got a deeply partisan game, and a media that is ready to exploit that, Manchester City have little chance of changing perception.

We just have to try and win the case.

The Football Leaks evidence looks very flimsy now because it has been shown that the UAE state covers the Etihad sponsorship (not Sheikh Mansour) but such is the prejudice and racism amongst the liberal elite that even when the evidence is produced it is ignored, or twisted to present something else. David Conn was given this evidence. He acknowledged that it showed that the UAE state picked up their sponsorship bill but instead of shooting down the case against Manchester City, which he really should have done, he argued that this showed the extent of state support for Manchester city. This is a very weak argument. A flag-carrying airline in financial difficulty is going to be supported financially by its state.

The liberal establishment are quite prepared to see City go down despite what the evidence suggests.

Conn has an agenda fuelled by the filth he works for

 

[Kenward Garg]

Clattenburg probably the best we’ve produced in years. Says it all

If I remember correctly, after sending off Evans in 6-1, Clattenburg didn’t referee United for twenty six games and when he did return: a supposedly dodgy decision was awarded to United.

 

[Coatigan]

Got 10 days I would expect these to be only working days so tomorrow is day 6

According to some reports, it has already been submitted, days after the ban. even UEFA spokespeople seem to have confirmed it.

 

[Kenward Garg]

Conn has an agenda fuelled by the filth he works for

Filth who call football “soccer” on their website so you can guess who their target demographic is: Americans who by chance own the two most corrupt clubs in this country.

 

[Gordyola]

thanks Kazzydeyna for a mature and reasoned response as opposed to all the crap I’ve received on here for my comment.

I have little knowledge of the law but always felt that if you were in the right then no problem, you win.

It seems, not the case, you need to win by playing games and out manoeuvring your opponent. Why I don’t know.

The main point of my concern is that by appointing a skilled, the best there is lawyer, just maybe, our basic argument of righteousness, regarding no initial defence or simple proof of legitimate funds transfers does not exist at all. We are going to have to fight this on a technicality which, while hopefully winning the case, will not ultimately absolve City from holier than thou innocence.

Your logic is totally flawed
If you were in the divorce courts and your partner was totally in the wrong would you, defend yourself or get a top divorce lawyer? I guess by your logic, yourself, as to turn up with a brief would arouse suspicions that you weren’t totally devoid of blame

 

[Gordyola]

According to some reports, it has already been submitted, days after the ban. even UEFA spokespeople seem to have confirmed it.

Yeah I heard that as well but no official confirmation

 

[blueinsa]

Why would a world class business not appoint world class lawyers? Some nonsensical perspectives here.

To be fair its just one.

 

[Marvin]

Doesn’t tie our hands at all. NDA inadmissible in court. We can present any evidence that we think maybe relevant.

The alleged hacking of Man City by Liverpool has no relevance to the technical charges of FFP but it might well be relevant in respect of a biased process.

Manchester City have already claimed that the UEFA process was deeply prejudiced and premeditated. if we can demonstrate that we have evidence of a major European club hacking City's systems, and that the authorities refused to act, then I think that is very relevant indeed. It could be an unexpected and welcome bonus for City fans.

 

[doobyedoobye]

cant agree there mate as per the Soriano interview the club have finally got sick and tired of the negative headlines and narrative that all we done is spend money and get no credit for how their investment has improved the club, football and community? Also if we win at CAS we would still have this reputation of cheating our way to the top and with the bribery charges just been announced with UEFA officials, there is no better time to prove our innocence and show the world we were targeted by the system.

I hope you're right but I can't see it. Clear our name on this ruling, apology incoming and make it clear you come at us again it will be armageddon is the most likely outcome I reckon against the cartel. I also can't see a different approach to the media but like I said I really hope you're right.

 

[Gordyola]

Why would a world class business not appoint world class lawyers? Some nonsensical perspectives here.

It’s just one poster and it has moved him to the hall of fame It’s now known as “doing a Seaford”

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Is this the Max Rushden who was on that pathetic, puerile Soccer AM. If so, what a boring cuunt. He was then, and he still is, evidently.

He was appalling on it - savagely dull.

That arse was part of its downfall