COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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No,you can do yourself more harm than good if you guess at what antibiotics you need,if you did get complications and it's the wrong ones you could be in trouble,they won't work on a virus anyway
Thanks - to you and the others for the helpful comments

There were of course some posters that just have to make daft and unhelpful comments - couple of them really unnecessary as afterall I had said:

"......…..antibiotics should not work as they treat bacteria rather than viruses...……"

It was the potential for the virus to lead to "...….bacterial co-infection?" that I was asking about

Just the way it is on here nowadays
 
Some sort of expert on the BBC made the point that Hubei province has a population similar to the Uk. They’ve had a couple of thousand deaths (assuming there hasn’t been a massive cover up by the authorities). Which suggests that speculation of possibly hundreds of thousands of deaths in the UK is wildly pessimistic.

although I’m not sure that the UK would be prepared to endure the sort of lock down measures that have been imposed in China. Not when you read reports of the Tenerife hotel where they’ve been told to stay in their rooms but people are on the sun loungers and in the pool.
Agreed, we’d be fucked. China is used to situations like this. We have a population that doesn’t think it’s an issue, “it’s only a bit of flu” etc. Too many just think it’s a China problem and not a world problem.
 
Agreed, we’d be fucked. China is used to situations like this. We have a population that doesn’t think it’s an issue, “it’s only a bit of flu” etc. Too many just think it’s a China problem and not a world problem.

It's easy to think like that when out of a UK population of 67 million - 13 people have been diagnosed and no deaths.
 
It's easy to think like that when out of a UK population of 67 million - 13 people have been diagnosed and no deaths.
Not saying it will become a deadly outbreak...

But you do realise that is how all outbreaks start, right?

There was literally a moment with the bubonic plague and the Spanish flu where a very similar phrase could have been uttered.
 
Not saying it will become a deadly outbreak...

But you do realise that is how all outbreaks start, right?

There was literally a moment with the bubonic plague and the Spanish flu where a very similar phrase could have been uttered.

True, but we have moved on from the 1300's

either way, we seem on high alert, the media is massively sensationalizing it - i think we're prepared if there was a serious outbreak. hard to tell though.
 
Again, comparing a novel virus at the beginning of it’s outbreak, with very, very limited data and research, and no vaccine, established treatment regime, or cure, to an ‘established’ virus with extensive data, vaccine, and established treatment regime, with a scaled healthcare system that is *just* able to accommodate the annual outbreaks, is comparing apples to oranges.

It’s very strange that a reputable virologist would make that assertion.

How many more times will people keep trying to compare this to the common flu, completely different!
 
True, but we have moved on from the 1300's

either way, we seem on high alert, the media is massively sensationalizing it - i think we're prepared if there was a serious outbreak. hard to tell though.
I can agree the media is sensationalising it, as they do with all things.

But given that most developed healthcare systems *just* accommodate the annual flu outbreaks, and under-developed healthcare systems don’t even do that, I am not sure we are ready for another layer of strain on our systems.

One of the reasons the world public health organisations are taking the outbreak so seriously is that they know that it is not happening in isolation. It will potentially occur whilst the flu and common cold are peaking around the world, which adds assessment and treatment requirements on an already taxed system.

This is as much a worry about the overall impacts to public health as it is the direct impacts from the virus itself, which could also be much worse than what is currently being reported given most independent assessments have said their numbers are artificially low (partly due to the inherent delayed accuracy of analysis for all outbreaks, and partly to do with the Chinese government suppressing a lot of reporting).
 
How many more times will people keep trying to compare this to the common flu, completely different!
It is very strange indeed.

Especially coming from supposed experts in the field. I have quite a few medical professionals in my family and none would make such a flawed comparison.
 
Agreed, we’d be fucked. China is used to situations like this. We have a population that doesn’t think it’s an issue, “it’s only a bit of flu” etc. Too many just think it’s a China problem and not a world problem.
Yes, the idea that Brits will self isolate for a fortnight if they have mild symptoms is for the birds.

How many City fans would stay away from a match if they develop a bit of a cough and a slightly raised temperature?
 
Yes, the idea that Brits will self isolate for a fortnight if they have mild symptoms is for the birds.

How many City fans would stay away from a match if they develop a bit of a cough and a slightly raised temperature?
Not many. And there’ll be outrage over cancelled events/shows because that’s what’s important.
 
Gonna be pretty embarrassing when the loungers and swimmers don't come down with the lurgi.. its the news - if they are not scaring you they aren't doing their job......

To be fair, I'd have thought the best to be would be outside, especially on a cruise ship. Couped up inside within an environment crawling with the virus is surely not good.
 
True, but we have moved on from the 1300's

either way, we seem on high alert, the media is massively sensationalizing it - i think we're prepared if there was a serious outbreak. hard to tell though.

I think we’re too worried, if anything.

We’ll be laughing about it in August.
 
Probably but behaving like hysterical children will ruin the economy.
I don’t think we are anywhere near acting like hysterical children. And not taking a potentially destructive pandemic seriously would destroy the economy, anyway (I’ve talked about how the outbreak has already impacted the world economy based entirely on the disruption in China).

Much like Rodri’s position right before Real’s goal yesterday, we’re in a ‘trolly problem’ scenario, and just need to do our best to choose the least **** option.
 
So much for containment measures.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-51655133

10:15
Recovered patients testing positive again
Celia Hatton

BBC Asia Pacific Regional Editor

Chinese health officials say that about 14% of patients in Guangdong province who had the coronavirus but recovered and were discharged from hospital have tested positive for the virus again.

Health officials admit they're still learning about the new coronavirus and how it operates within the human body.

The same phenomenon has been reported in Japan, when a woman in her 40s who had recovered and tested negative for the virus then tested positive more than three weeks later.

The authorities in both countries have pledged to continue tracking former patients, even after they've been discharged from hospital.
 
I’m hearing rumours of F1 races being cancelled in other countries other than China.

Makes you wonder how much effect this is going to have on football, sports and just generally large scale gatherings in the coming months.

Could be the year to cancel all those holiday plans, days out etc and start redecorating that bedroom, building that decking you’ve put off for so long...
 
I’m hearing rumours of F1 races being cancelled in other countries other than China.

Makes you wonder how much effect this is going to have on football, sports and just generally large scale gatherings in the coming months.

Could be the year to cancel all those holiday plans, days out etc and start redecorating that bedroom, building that decking you’ve put off for so long...
There are a few very big sporting events that could be called off.

The Olympics being the headliner. Already seen football and Rugby matched 'postponed'. It's arguably the worst year in history to have a Europe-wide Euros as well.

Having said all that, I'll take them cancelling the rest of the Premier League season. I mean we have to take our sanity.... I mean, safety seriously right?
 
I’m hearing rumours of F1 races being cancelled in other countries other than China.

Makes you wonder how much effect this is going to have on football, sports and just generally large scale gatherings in the coming months.

Could be the year to cancel all those holiday plans, days out etc and start redecorating that bedroom, building that decking you’ve put off for so long...

Not at all, indeed I am hopeful that around the end of April Croatia closes its borders for 6 months, nobody in nobody out. jobs a good,un!
 
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