UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[blue b4 the moon]

Perhaps St Marks parish church in West Gorton never existed and we were founded in Salem:

We should send round the blazin' squad our present day Scuttlers to sort them out.

 

[Centurions]

The firm Leroy has recently moved to "LIAN Sports" are the ones that actually got raided

Damn, Delaney will be quoting me now stating that we encourage the players to use money launderers as agents.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Have I missed something along the way as I dont recall seeing any other club being mentioned in said documents, or are the 70+ million documents purely city related :-) and how the hell did they find less than a handful of supposedly incriminating emails.

No they have 88 million e-mail records incriminating us alone, that they are holding back, but aren't afraid to use them if the four they published don't do the trick.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Damn, Delaney will be quoting me now stating that we encourage the players to use money launderers as agents.

Liverpool are sponsored by money launderers, does that not make it alright?

 

[OB1]

The very next email could have been 'Apologies, I meant to type ADEC, not ADUG'

Yup, but that really does't matter if, for instance, ADEC gave the money to ADUG to transfer to City....

 

[Bluechipblue]

Are you a girl?

Only at weekends Squirty.

 

[squirtyflower]

Only at weekends Squirty.

Then if he reads at a weekend you have a chance

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

The CAS case will just be the start of it. I dont believe that our owners will leave it at that - those that are behind this campaign to destroy what he has built best get ready

 

[petrusha]

As an aside, I'll be surprised if Pinto lives long enough to stand trial unless he agrees to plead. This is no lone wolf and whoever is backing him won't want him talking.

I get the impression from your posts that you know more about this area than I do, so I defer to your greater expertise. But FWIW, your words strike a chord with me and seem likely to be true. Some of the portrayals of Pinto, including this latest one in The Guardian, as a lone wolf crusader for justice in football seem to me to be fanciful in the extreme.

 

[King KdB of Belgium]

Prestwich_Blue, what makes you say that UEFA do not have those e-mails. That supposedly incriminate us. There is something that doesn't hold up. If UEFA have only the so called article by DER Spiegel, surely in wouldn't take CAS long to come to a judgement. Where they either say your guilty or not guilty. I still think that UEFA are holding something back in case this does not go their way.

The time ha snow come to fight fire with fire. Let's put UEFA in the dock, and see what they have to say about this FFP. What I like to know his how clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man Utd., etc. How their debts keep growing and yet they all comply with FFP.

Does this show that UEFA is corrupt, or are they pandering to the so called G14 football clubs. These so called clubs will keep on pressuring UEFA until we are convicted of something.

 

[Centurions]

Have I missed something along the way as I dont recall seeing any other club being mentioned in said documents, or are the 70+ million documents purely city related :-) and how the hell did they find less than a handful of supposedly incriminating emails.

The New Yorker piece had an interesting little bit in it (well, I thought it was interesting):-

The first hard drives that Pinto gave to Buschmann contained around eighteen million files. Der Spiegel bought new servers and created a secure network to handle the data. “We went shopping,” Naber said. The magazine’s I.T. team converted PDFs and e-mails into searchable text, while the reporters worked on Intella, specialized software used by prosecutors in fraud cases, to make connections within the documents. When I visited, the Intella home screen showed some sixteen million e-mails, eighty-five thousand presentations, six hundred and eighty thousand spreadsheets, and a hundred and five thousand contacts in the Football Leaks database. I typed in the name Jordan Pickford, the current goalkeeper for the English national team. There were twenty-four hundred and twenty-four results. Mesut Özil, an ethereal German playmaker for Arsenal, the team that I support, generated eighty-six hundred and twenty-nine.

They have put pieces out worldwide that we don't really hear about in Little England I'm afraid. A few Portuguese clubs, Ronaldo etc.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Have I missed something along the way as I dont recall seeing any other club being mentioned in said documents, or are the 70+ million documents purely city related :-) and how the hell did they find less than a handful of supposedly incriminating emails.

Almost a needle in a haystack or some doctored ones....

 

[Pam]

Who's this Shirley you're talking to?

Don't call her Shirley.

 

[Centurions]

Prestwich_Blue, what makes you say that UEFA do not have those e-mails. That supposedly incriminate us. There is something that doesn't hold up. If UEFA have only the so called article by DER Spiegel, surely in wouldn't take CAS long to come to a judgement. Where they either say your guilty or not guilty. I still think that UEFA are holding something back in case this does not go their way.

The time ha snow come to fight fire with fire. Let's put UEFA in the dock, and see what they have to say about this FFP. What I like to know his how clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man Utd., etc. How their debts keep growing and yet they all comply with FFP.

Does this show that UEFA is corrupt, or are they pandering to the so called G14 football clubs. These so called clubs will keep on pressuring UEFA until we are convicted of something.

I'm pretty sure that they can't find us guilty and hand down a punishment without telling City what for.

 

[havefaith]

There's been lots published abroad about clubs and dealings with agents, especially Sporting Lisbon and Benfica. There were the Ronaldo rape allegations and stories about Pogba and his agent. The City story has been pushed aggressively by the UK media and our commercial rivals here and abroad. As far as I know none of the 90 charges against Rui Pinto relate directly to City. The extortion allegations involved Portugese clubs who Pinto was apparently trying to blackmail in return for not releasing their data to the media.

Cheers, this is what happens when you try to ignore most media outlets, off to google rui pinto :-)

 

[Bluechipblue]

You mean they'd take a pinch now, for the betterment of the organisation in the future?

Exactly.

 

[Newman Noggs]

I get the impression from your posts that you know more about this area than I do, so I defer to your greater expertise. But FWIW, your words strike a chord with me and seem likely to be true. Some of the portrayals of Pinto, including this latest one in The Guardian, as a lone wolf crusader for justice in football seem to me to be fanciful in the extreme.

The thing that struck me about him bragging about having all the passwords in his head is that it's an invitation to eliminate the risk of him spilling the beans. In his shoes, I'd be saying something along the lines of "all the relevant passwords are in safe keeping with instructions as to their disclosure in the event of anything happening to me".

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

You mean they'd take a pinch now, for the betterment of the organisation in the future?

Exactly.

Sounds familiar. Where would they have learned that from?

 

[citymike1969]

You honestly think anything negative about that shit stain of a club would be headlines? Will all be swept under the big old rug.

...is it not full under there already, with the 39 corpses?

 

[squirtyflower]

The thing that struck me about him bragging about having all the passwords in his head is that it's an invitation to eliminate the risk of him spilling the beans. In his shoes, I'd be saying something along the lines of "all the relevant passwords are in safe keeping with instructions as to their disclosure in the event of anything happening to me".

You watch too many crime dramas