COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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BJL_City said:
Not disputing that in the slightest. All I'll say is by their nature hospitals will deal with the worst of it, and none of us are set up for something like this.
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That’s the scary thing. For most of our lives we live with an attitude that says ‘if we get ill with anything, then we will be treated well by the NHS and hopefully we will get better. Nurses and doctors will do everything they can to help us recover’. This situation is very different potentially. If the outbreak is not paused, our ICU capacity will be totally overwhelmed and doctors will have to choose who gets the Ventilator and who gets to die in the corridor on a trolley. That’s not being pessimistic, that’s just what’s happening in Italy who are only two weeks ahead of us in the contagion rates.
 
inbetween said:
It's going to be extremely difficult to implement those measures, the Chinese authorities in some quarters were welding doors closed so people couldn't leave their homes.

They have a society that is used to doing what it is told and an authoritarian regime that uses military force to ensure it stays that way.

I can only imagine if we imposed a similar regime here then there would be total anarchy on the streets. Do we have the resources to contain such a thing whilst also dealing with the virus?

We need to avoid panic and the Chinese approach induces just that.
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Of course, I accept all of that.

But we could try, and we could do *some* of it. I mean like not going ahead with an event in Cheltenham where 250,000 people will truck up and mingle, FFS. Or - here's a novel idea - have some basic controls in place on people coming in from Italy?
 
dozzie26 said:
Exact same script as me 2 days ago. I left work with the same symptoms and was passed from pillar to post with 111, contact your GP instead. There is a flu going round, I've been lay on the sofa most of this morning still off work.
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Not been tested though? There are going to be loads of people with this who haven’t been tested. Maybe that’s why our numbers are so much lower
 
worsleyweb said:
Well 111 were a bag of wank. Got a doctor calling me back in the next hour. Coughing and wheezy tight chest now.

Something not right!
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Sounds like me at the moment, eventually got a call back 9-10 hours later (last night) telling me to book an appointment with my GP. Rang the GP and they've got nothing available for 2 weeks, so now they've given me an out of hours service.

No wonder our figures reported havent spiked, we're all keeling over at home instead.
 
Blue Hefner said:
BREAKING: 456 people have now tested positive for coronavirus in the UK
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Actually this is quite good news. +73 today is another 19%.

That's the third day in a row it's been in the 17% to 19% range, rather than the +35% range it was a until only a few days ago. +18% a day would mean "only" 12,000 cases by the end of the month, which is actually not that bad, compared to how it could be.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Actually this is quite good news. +73 today is another 19%.

That's the third day in a row it's been in the 17% to 19% range, rather than the +35% range it was a until only a few days ago. +18% a day would mean "only" 12,000 cases by the end of the month, which is actually not that bad, compared to how it could be.
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It’s still fairly meaningless if they’re only testing small numbers
 
Chippy_boy said:
Actually this is quite good news. +73 today is another 19%.

That's the third day in a row it's been in the 17% to 19% range, rather than the +35% range it was a until only a few days ago. +18% a day would mean "only" 12,000 cases by the end of the month, which is actually not that bad, compared to how it could be.
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My biggest concern with this is the sheer numbers who haven’t or are unwilling to be tested. So many who have symptoms are just putting it down to a bit of cold or flu.
I fear the numbers would be much higher otherwise.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Actually this is quite good news. +73 today is another 19%.

That's the third day in a row it's been in the 17% to 19% range, rather than the +35% range it was a until only a few days ago. +18% a day would mean "only" 12,000 cases by the end of the month, which is actually not that bad, compared to how it could be.
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Still think it's the limited testing that's keeping the numbers low. I would agree with the hypothesis if they were testing everyone with the symptoms but that's definitely not the case given some of the stories going around. Lucky if you can see a healthcare professional at the moment.
 
cibaman said:
It’s still fairly meaningless if they’re only testing small numbers
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And @Pablo1 and @MCFC1993

Yes and no. If there's a whole bunch of people untested, we can assume an awful lot of those are not so critically ill... or they would be in the system and would have been tested. I think they are testing anyone who comes into hospital with a chest infection, for example. So the fact there's a load of untested people, could be a good thing - they could be people who are going to get better anyway and not put extra strain on resources.

The rate of growth of the known cases and the rate of growth of the death rates, and hard numbers upon which we can really gauge how fast it may be spreading.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Not been tested though? There are going to be loads of people with this who haven’t been tested. Maybe that’s why our numbers are so much lower
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110% that is one of the reasons the figures are lower. I'm an otherwise fit bloke in my mid 20s, other people may be suffering worse symptoms. In fairness, I'm pretty sure I've not got the coronavirus, the GP would not swab me. He left it up to me to decide whether to self-isolate, think I will be going back to work tomorrow or Friday.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Actually this is quite good news. +73 today is another 19%.

That's the third day in a row it's been in the 17% to 19% range, rather than the +35% range it was a until only a few days ago. +18% a day would mean "only" 12,000 cases by the end of the month, which is actually not that bad, compared to how it could be.
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+83 actually isn't it? Think ten got added on overnight unofficially from yesterday's official total of 373.
 
Chippy_boy said:
And @Pablo1 and @MCFC1993

Yes and no. If there's a whole bunch of people untested, we can assume an awful lot of those are not so critically ill... or they would be in the system and would have been tested. I think they are testing anyone who comes into hospital with a chest infection, for example. So the fact there's a load of untested people, could be a good thing - they could be people who are going to get better anyway and not put extra strain on resources.

The rate of growth of the known cases and the rate of growth of the death rates, and hard numbers upon which we can really gauge how fast it may be spreading.
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Let’s hope so. Would be great to see everyone taking this as seriously as it merits.
 
Are people still going on about this? Breathing problems? Pah. We've all had a cold and still gone into work the next morning! FACT - Literally anyone could die if they just stop breathing! FACT - Literally all 70 million Britons are expected to die by the end of their lives. FACT - It's just the sniffles. FACT - None of the birds round mine caught the HS1 Flu. FACT - Yet another MSM plot to delay Brexit. Drs and Nurses and other metropolitan elites - the people demand you GET IT DONE!! Or it's TRAITORS GATE for the lot of you! #TeamCambridge
 
Chippy_boy said:
Actually this is quite good news. +73 today is another 19%.

That's the third day in a row it's been in the 17% to 19% range, rather than the +35% range it was a until only a few days ago. +18% a day would mean "only" 12,000 cases by the end of the month, which is actually not that bad, compared to how it could be.
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More then likely it is in the 35% range if not higher.
Majority of people with symptoms will have been getting tested a week back, now being overwhelmed the majority will be being told to self isolate.

Do we know how many tests have been done on a daily basis?
 
MCFC1993 said:
Sounds like me at the moment, eventually got a call back 9-10 hours later (last night) telling me to book an appointment with my GP. Rang the GP and they've got nothing available for 2 weeks, so now they've given me an out of hours service.

No wonder our figures reported havent spiked, we're all keeling over at home instead.
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And on top of this the only appointment you can get in advance with 'out of hours' is the weekend. Otherwise it's a mad dash at 8am to get an on the day evening appointment.

I'm not surprised the stats havent had a huge spike, I'm surprised they've tested anyone for it based on my experience.
 
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