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Talking about Americans elsewhere in europe, if flights aren't allowed, then even if they are exempt there are no flights back.

No idea.
This is the post I was responding to.

Chippy_boy said:
Just wondering how this might work. I mean do they stop someone boarding the flight in the UK? Based upon what?

"Have you been to the EU in the last 2 weeks"

Answer (from American wanting to go home and who's just arrived from Italy) "No".

Or does someone turn up at JFK and then get put back on the return plane? And who pays for that? Or are they put into quarantine in the US for weeks. And if so where? It's all a bit vague.
 
Brilliant report that. The bit that stood out was the following: All-cause mortality
In week 09 2020, no statistically significant excess all-cause mortality by week of death was seen overall in England. In the devolved administrations, no statistically significant excess all-cause mortality for all ages was observed in Wales and Northern Ireland in week 09 and for Scotland in week 07 2020.

This is the part of the report that should be being constantly looked at (as it undoubtedly is being). If the above gets changed to 'statistically significant excess all-cause mortality by week of death, week after week, then something will need 'to be done'. What is happening, generally speaking, is that people are forgetting that people die every day and just seeing the virus as a 'killer'. That is; 'If not for the virus, the death rate from pneumonia type illness would be nil', which is demonstrably false.
Currently, self confessed experts wanting 'something to be done' are guilty of the Politician's syllogism...
  1. 'Something' must be done
  2. Here is 'something we could be doing'
  3. Therefore, this is what we must do.
You’re misunderstanding the meaning of ‘All-cause Mortality’ in that report (which is specifically a summary of non-novel “influenza and other seasonal respiratory illnesses”).
 
I'm heading to Valencia in a week for some sailing. Or I would be if the world han't gone fucking mad.
Got a feeling I'm going to be looking for a new job once the hysteria ends.
I wouldn't worry about hysteria-driven measures if I were you, considering what the UK government plan is.

As for Valencia, you could also try sailing directly to it.
 
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