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The German death rate, 0.1% at the moment, is very, very low when compared with other places. Is it because their health services are excellent or is it because they use Ozone Therapy as an option to treat Viral Pneumonia - and have done so since Spanish Flu in1918. Maybe a combination of the two.
 
BlueAnorak said:
The German death rate, 0.1% at the moment, is very, very low when compared with other places. Is it because their health services are excellent or is it because they use Ozone Therapy as an option to treat Viral Pneumonia - and have done so since Spanish Flu in1918. Maybe a combination of the two.
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I hope that experts in the UK are finding out what there is to learn from Germany.
 
BlueAnorak said:
The German death rate, 0.1% at the moment, is very, very low when compared with other places. Is it because their health services are excellent or is it because they use Ozone Therapy as an option to treat Viral Pneumonia - and have done so since Spanish Flu in1918. Maybe a combination of the two.
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Those could be factors, especially their critical care capacity, which is much greater than many other nations (though, I have not done enough research regarding the Ozone Therapy to have an opinion there).

But I would say likely one of the biggest contributing factors is their proactive and aggressive response to the outbreak.
 
https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787

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Gelsons Dad said:
Those who are dying from COVID are the same demographic as those who would succumb to flu so the overall impact of both is relevant and the total mortality rate is the significant statistic because those who die because of COVID could well have died of Flu. If the total number of deaths is significantly higher than the annual 3 to 6 hundred thousand who die from season viruses then it would be time to be concerned but currently the deaths from COVID are statistically insignificant and yet the world is spiralling into a recession based on the the type of hysterical post you are making.

Would you like to post a description of the effects of flu on the body and how it affects the lungs? Because it's the same. So painting COVID as some kind of special case is simply hysterical.
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Having nailed your colours to this mast, you're steadfastly going to stick to it whilst the ship sinks aren't you. Can I suggest you sing a couple of verses of the dam busters march as your head disappears beneath the waves? Oh, and saluting as you go, that would be good.

 
marco said:
thats Scotland only, she wont be speaking for the whole of the UK, thats for Borris, i would expect England to do the same but you never know
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Scotland doing it in isolation makes little sense. Feeling is Sturgeon has preempted a Govt decision/announcement for Monday.
 
SebastianBlue said:
But I would say likely one of the biggest contributing factors is their proactive and aggressive response to the outbreak.
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What is that? Genuine question - I was unaware of them doing anything particularly proactive or aggressive, but maybe I have missed it? Also whilst I can fully grasp the possibility of them having a much lower mortality rate, what is a complete mystery to me is why they have far fewer critical cases? Better medical treatments surely influences outcomes, but not the percentage of people getting ill in the first place? The German numbers are to me at least, very puzzling.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
? What have they done? As far as I can see they haven't done anything more than the UK. And they have a lot more cases. It's just the deaths that are low.
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It may well be as simple as having better and more ICU facilities, as there seems to be a direct correlation between how quick the care you get is given, and more ICU beds is a help.
 
BlueAnorak said:
The German death rate, 0.1% at the moment, is very, very low when compared with other places. Is it because their health services are excellent or is it because they use Ozone Therapy as an option to treat Viral Pneumonia - and have done so since Spanish Flu in1918. Maybe a combination of the two.
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What is Ozone therapy?

Hamann Pineapple said:
https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787

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Interesting read, coronaviruses from bats were known to be able to infect humans and that study put them slightly more under the focus of virologists.
I mean, I hope that's what you were highlighting and that you weren't looking for tin foils.

Here's a cute little dinosaur in amber for your scientific trouble.
 
cleavers said:
It may well be as simple as having better and more ICU facilities, as there seems to be a direct correlation between how quick the care you get is given, and more ICU beds is a help.
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Agreed but how does that explain them only having 9 serious/critical cases??? For reference, Italy with circa 5x the number of cases, have 1,000 serious/critical. On a like for like basis it's 9 vs 200.

Yes, we all know about the demographic in Italy being older etc, but 9 vs 1,000? Surely there's something else afoot. I am reminded of the 'two strains" discussion and have been wondering if the Germans have a higher prevalence for the less aggressive strain, perhaps?
 
Chippy_boy said:
Agreed but how does that explain them only having 9 serious/critical cases??? For reference, Italy with circa 5x the number of cases, have 1,000 serious/critical. On a like for like basis it's 9 vs 200.

Yes, we all know about the demographic in Italy being older etc, but 9 vs 1,000? Surely there's something else afoot. I am reminded of the 'two strains" discussion and have been wondering if the Germans have a higher prevalence for the less aggressive strain, perhaps?
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No idea really, maybe they're just catching it and treating it earlier ?
 
Uffa said:
What is Ozone therapy?


Interesting read, coronaviruses from bats were known to be able to infect humans and that study put them slightly more under the focus of virologists.
I mean, I hope that's what you were highlighting and that you weren't looking for tin foils.

Here's a cute little dinosaur in amber for your scientific trouble.
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If I were looking for tin foils I'd have the Dean Koontz book on show
 
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