COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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SebastianBlue said:
If you want direct quotes criticising the UK government’s new announcement today then you’ll have to wait a day or two.

People are referring to the many instances of guidance provided by the WHO and CDC that contradict the assessment of sporting event associated public behaviour being a low risk for viral transmission in the context of containment and/or delay of transmission in this pandemic. Or, to it put more accurately, that the risk (both health and economic) is not sufficient to outweigh the possible economic impact of prohibiting sporting events and thus reducing the associated public behaviour that may increase viral transmission.
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Perhaps you could provide the WHO guidance that contradicts the UK governmental stance? Because on their website they specifically say cancelling all mass gatherings is unnecessary.

They also explicitly say that whether it should go ahead depends on the strain on emergency services - just like the government said today.
 
west didsblue said:
Unless Karen׳s right and there’s a load of people dying with pneumonia on their death certificate having not been tested.
I really don’t know, and we’ll only find out if the stats for pneumonia and COPD are much higher than usual.
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That would be a good objective measure,i will keep an eye out in the spring for this winters figures although it would be more of an indication than proof
 
The £ is 1.13 Vs the €. This surprised me as we have done nothing yet schools, businesses, roads have been closed in Europe and Bio-hazard units are being craned in to hospitals on the streets of Berlin. I'd have thought the € would have tanked as the continent has more cases. We seem pretty steady V the $

Seems a little odd
 
Portugal closing all schools for two weeks from Monday - kids are ecstatic and and think the Coronavirus is a gift from the Gods..

Day 1 PlayStation
Day 2 divorce the kids
 
karen7 said:
It is beyond resources in normal times,let alone now
A lot of what the government put out is designed to negate panic as that crashes the economy and that is their only concern whatever they say
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its creating panic because no one trusts a word their saying,how anyone can stand there straight faced and say events and school could be damaging if closed, the only thing that gets damaged in that case is the economy so its versus peoples lives,truly schocking and something i only thought the likes of Hitler could be capable of
 
andyhinch said:
Are you suggesting if we can’t stop contamination completely we should just say fuck it carry on regardless ?
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Not at all and I’m all for sporting events etc being cancelled but people are still going to be on tubes, trams, trains and buses unless we totally restrict movement and I certainly don’t see that happening.
 
Blue Hefner said:
A bloke who seemed to know his stuff on a podcast I listened to earlier disagrees. Reason for his disagreement was that 38% of nurses have children so would be unable to work
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Possibly in two weeks when the UK cases will probably be peaking the schools will be closing for easter anyway, so I suppose closing now would mean working families need child care for a month which would be extremely difficult for many health service workers.
 
marco said:
its creating panic because no one trusts a word their saying,how anyone can stand there straight faced and say events and school could be damaging if closed, the only thing that gets damaged in that case is the economy so its versus peoples lives,truly schocking and something i only thought the likes of Hitler could be capable of
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And we now have two cases of Godwin's law in the thread I think.
 
inchy14 said:
Not at all and I’m all for sporting events etc being cancelled but people are still going to be on tubes, trams, trains and buses unless we totally restrict movement and I certainly don’t see that happening.
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I’m just advocating minimising risk, stopping as much none essential travelling/mass gatherings would help.
 
marco said:
its creating panic because no one trusts a word their saying,how anyone can stand there straight faced and say events and school could be damaging if closed, the only thing that gets damaged in that case is the economy so its versus peoples lives,truly schocking and something i only thought the likes of Hitler could be capable of
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oh shut up.
 
TCIB said:
Part of the reluctance to shut schools will likely be due to many of those parents being medical staff. That would be a large chunk of front line staff not available. With the reasoning kids are low risk and most teachers being young and healthy. If they have to close to stop the kids being a carrier the parents will have to stay home, having gran and grandad look after them is not a reasonable solution given this virus is much more of a health risk to them. People are stuck between a rock and a hard place whatever choices they make it seems.
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It’s also because the worst cases of domestic violence and economic stress in households are during school holidays when kids are at home. A lot of welfare officers in schools don’t want schools closing.

A lot of households can’t afford to feed their kids. Schools open in the Summer holidays in some areas so that families who struggle to afford two to four meals a day for a family can have their kids fed.
 
I’m supposed to be flying to Cyprus on Saturday, they’ve just moved UK passengers back into category 2 from 3. It says self isolation at home for 14 days but I don’t know if that’s if you test positive at the airport or just if you fly there? I’m only due to be there for 4 nights, do I have to stay? Can I just fly back on my normal flight? Can’t find answers anywhere at the minute. So fucking frustrating.
 
I think our leaders are playing a blinder. A bit like first world war Generals

1. A lot of older people will die. Solves the pension crisis in one.
2. Self isolate for 7 days. In severe cases the virus acts very quickly, by the time you know its bad its to late. Result the NHS is not overloaded.
 
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