COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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I thought the advice was to ring 111 so as not to put the GP and other patients at risk. perhaps you rang 111 first.

Rang 111 on Tuesday 8am, they got back to me at 6pm and told me to contact GP. GP no appointments for 2 weeks so sent me to out of hours, first appointment I could get was 8pm tonight.

That was before the storm of this government announcement, 111 wont be able to cope, which is why they've said contact them online.
 
Unfortunately life has a price, this is and will always be the case. I understand not going into full lockdown, I understand not closing schools just yet or not taking everyone out of work but we need to slow this down and to me the mindset of everyone should be interact with others only if you have to. The elderly, non workers and those with serious health issues need to stay indoors as much as possible. The rest need to act sensibly go to work unless they have symptoms then go home.

There is no need to go to a football match, a concert, a shopping centre etc...

The question is do you force people into these actions? Do you accept the economic damage from doing so? I think the government don’t have the stomach for either.

I don’t like the man at all but he was brilliant today in my opinion.
 
Thanks. Just checked. You are correct athough it does not cause COVID-19. It is the proper scientific name for COVID-19. They are one and the same virus. I didn't realise that when I read the paper. I thought it was a closely related virus.

In the document I read about the naming they also mention that it is expected to mutate into a low-pathogenic or non-pathogenic virus.
Technically, COVID-19 is the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus, but you are right that COVID-19 is now commonly used for both by experts and laymen alike — it’s just an easier shorthand because the distinction is not important for most reporting / discussion. It’s important for scientific distinction, though.

More information here: https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...ase-(covid-2019)-and-the-virus-that-causes-it

Why do the virus and the disease have different names?

Viruses, and the diseases they cause, often have different names. For example, HIV is the virus that causes AIDS. People often know the name of a disease, such as measles, but not the name of the virus that causes it (rubeola).

There are different processes, and purposes, for naming viruses and diseases.

Viruses are named based on their genetic structure to facilitate the development of diagnostic tests, vaccines and medicines. Virologists and the wider scientific community do this work, so viruses are named by the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses (ICTV).

Diseases are named to enable discussion on disease prevention, spread, transmissibility, severity and treatment. Human disease preparedness and response is WHO’s role, so diseases are officially named by WHO in the International Classification of Diseases (ICD).

ICTV announced “severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)” as the name of the new virus on 11 February 2020. This name was chosen because the virus is genetically related to the coronavirus responsible for the SARS outbreak of 2003. While related, the two viruses are different.

WHO announced “COVID-19” as the name of this new disease on 11 February 2020, following guidelines previously developed with the World Organisation for Animal Health (OIE) and the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO).
 
Rang 111 on Tuesday 8am, they got back to me at 6pm and told me to contact GP. GP no appointments for 2 weeks so sent me to out of hours, first appointment I could get was 8pm tonight.

That was before the storm of this government announcement, 111 wont be able to cope, which is why they've said contact them online.
Sorry. Fair enough. Must have been worrying. Hope you get better soon.

I don't know how people are supposed to work out whether what they have got is a normal bug or coronavirus. Very difficult to get tested I believe.
 
I have seen him in the flesh and on a personal level wouldn't nail him and I am not at all classed as a fussy person. Beauty is in the eye of the persona and one nans poison and all that.

Why did you grab my arse then?
 
Sorry. Fair enough. Must have been worrying. Hope you get better soon.

I don't know how people are supposed to work out whether what they have got is a normal bug or coronavirus. Very difficult to get tested I believe.

Well that was the worry, in general I know I'll be fine but the worry is about family. I was meant to be helping my uncle with a job at my nans tomorrow, both have major health issues so I've had to can that one.
 
OK so that's great news on a number of fronts.
We know Karen has it (pretty sure the whole of the internet knows) and we also know that you had a social interaction with her but don't have it. What would be interesting to know is how long you were in her company and in what environment? Same table in and enclosed bar? Stood next to each other in a queue?

People are worried about catching it from a steward on this thread so would you care to share some details?
We spent about 8hrs together,he had my arm all the time ,we chatted up close as it was noisy,outside for most of it
I'm an open book,i have felt like i could help with givng people the facts and the process and treatment i have had,it is important that the facts and not myths were put out,knowledge is power and all that
 
Unfortunately life has a price, this is and will always be the case. I understand not going into full lockdown, I understand not closing schools just yet or not taking everyone out of work but we need to slow this down and to me the mindset of everyone should be interact with others only if you have to. The elderly, non workers and those with serious health issues need to stay indoors as much as possible. The rest need to act sensibly go to work unless they have symptoms then go home.

There is no need to go to a football match, a concert, a shopping centre etc...

The question is do you force people into these actions? Do you accept the economic damage from doing so? I think the government don’t have the stomach for either.

I understand not shutting schools down yet too.

There’s no logic for sport continuing, as an example, though. Yes you do force some of it as sometimes that is what’s needed to enforce behaviours elsewhere too.
 
OK so that's great news on a number of fronts.
We know Karen has it (pretty sure the whole of the internet knows) and we also know that you had a social interaction with her but don't have it. What would be interesting to know is how long you were in her company and in what environment? Same table in and enclosed bar? Stood next to each other in a queue?

People are worried about catching it from a steward on this thread so would you care to share some details?
But *when* did Karen contract it, that is just as important to the discussion.

A rigorous epidemiological investigation should be launched immediately!
 
OK so that's great news on a number of fronts.
We know Karen has it (pretty sure the whole of the internet knows) and we also know that you had a social interaction with her but don't have it. What would be interesting to know is how long you were in her company and in what environment? Same table in and enclosed bar? Stood next to each other in a queue?

People are worried about catching it from a steward on this thread so would you care to share some details?

I met kaz around 1pm and was pretty much with her for 7 maybe 8 hours. Helped her walking by linking her and sat next to her during the game. Just normal interaction but over quite a long period.
 
Rang 111 on Tuesday 8am, they got back to me at 6pm and told me to contact GP. GP no appointments for 2 weeks so sent me to out of hours, first appointment I could get was 8pm tonight.

That was before the storm of this government announcement, 111 wont be able to cope, which is why they've said contact them online.
And this is with less than 600 confirmed cases. In around 10 days we will have 5000. 111/NHS is already cracking.
 
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