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Just watching the US press conference and they're 2nd nation to mentioning 'blunting the peak', mentioned that if they're successful then it'll work a lot better than the early outbreak countries and if they fail it could be a lot worse!

Sounds like the UK-US have been working together to tackle this.
 
Two Gun Bob said:
If the doctor had not seen grandma within 14 days and treated her for the illness that caused her demise then the doctor could not legally issue a med cert to permit burial or cremation. Apologies for your loss mate.
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It was back in 2005, but thanks anyway TGB.
She must have had a medic visit then in those last few days, although it was a care home and we all knew she was going to go sooner rather than later.
Dementia had been there for years but she kept getting pneumonia and then recovering (they built the old bugger strong). We all decided to let them ease back on antibiotics and just ease any pain. Horrible decision to have to make, but the right one for her.
 
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MCFC1993 said:
Just watching the US press conference and they're 2nd nation to mentioning 'blunting the peak', mentioned that if they're successful then it'll work a lot better than the early outbreak countries and if they fail it could be a lot worse!

Sounds like the UK-US have been working together to tackle this.
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Every nation is trying to squash the peak and stretch it out. The difference is we’re the only ones not backing up our words with action.
 
argyle said:
Feel like the British people are being experimented with.

Allowing 60% of the UK to get infected for a theory which probably wont work and that no other country is following is madness.
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Totally agree and actually I think at the current rate of acceleration we risk overshooting 60% by some margin.
 
argyle said:
Feel like the British people are being experimented with.

Allowing 60% of the UK to get infected for a theory which probably wont work and that no other country is following is madness.
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I think most countries are going to have similar % of infected, it's how long it takes to get there that they are trying to manage. I suspect once numbers increase a bit more, stronger measures will be implemented.
 
mackenzie said:
So how does that sit with what you were saying before about no PM's necessarily for those in care homes?
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T put me straight on some things,i still don't think many drs will recomend a post mortem,people don't want to know this but resources affect a lot of what goes on. drs take decisions relatives don't want to consider,one example giving higher doses of morphine for pain even though they know it will likely end life,in time of crisis when everything is stretched more than ever then doing post mortems on elderly people with acute/chronic problems who were expected to die will hardly happen
I don't want to go any further into this subject
 
mackenzie said:
It was back in 2005, but thanks anyway TGB.
She must have had a medic visit then in those last few days, although it was a care home and we all knew she was going to go sooner rather than later.
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Probably the case mate. Have a quick read of this..

If the doctor is unsure about the actual cause of death even if it was clearly from natural causes, or if the deceased died suddenly and had not been under a doctor's care during the past 14 days, or the death is unnatural, they will contact the coroner (or procurator fiscal in Scotland).

If there was no med certificate then we could not remove the deceased to our funeral home and it would fall within the jurisdiction of the coroners office. Not to be confused with a death certificate.
 
karen7 said:
T put me straight on some things,i still don't think many drs will recomend a post mortem,people don't want to know this but resources affect a lot of what goes on. drs take decisions relatives don't want to consider,one example giving higher doses of morphine for pain even though they know it will likely end life,in time of crisis when everything is stretched more than ever then doing post mortems on elderly people with acute/chronic problems who were expected to die will hardly happen
I don't want to go any further into this subject
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But, according to that link, it's a legal requirement?
 
Tricky_Trev said:
Using Walmart car parks to set up drive-thru testing locations. Wish we had similar set-ups.
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We don’t need to do tests anymore. We now know this is here and it is now community spread. It’s gone past the phase of trying to identify who’s got it and contain it. We don’t need to know how many people have got it in total. We need to keep as many people who think they’ve got it isolated in their homes on their own and anyone who is in a severe state need to be triaged and treated in hospital.
 
It’s said to be apocryphal, but for a long while the received wisdom was that Churchill was supposed to have heard about the Blitzkrieg of Coventry via the fledgling Enigma machine, a week or so in advance - but couldn’t directly respond to the message for fear of alerting the Germans to the emerging weapon that had revealed the raid. A weapon that ultimately played a huge role in winning the war.

It seems now that Churchill deployed significant defensive resources to Coventry in the days before the raid, which, if true, means that theory is bollocks, but before I arrived at that conclusion I pondered if I could do the same. To sacrifice people, if it was the least-worst option.

If I genuinely felt it was for the greater good, then I could, without hesitation, but it would be an awful decision to have to make, which would haunt me for my days.

Not posted too positively about Johnson previously, but I don’t envy the choices he’s having to make. He might be a ****, but I don’t think he’s a monster. People want things to be binary, when they simply can’t be.

There will be some tough decisions for him to make.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
1% death rate, 60% of 66m = 39600000, 1%=396000 deaths.
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Problem is we don’t know the death rate or how many people have it, I think the plan is to look out of the window and guess. Look Boris 6 out of 10 people at that bus stop are coughing let’s do something.

Dear boy if they need a bus to travel I think we can wait a bit longer have you not seen the FTSE.
 
karen7 said:
T put me straight on some things,i still don't think many drs will recomend a post mortem,people don't want to know this but resources affect a lot of what goes on. drs take decisions relatives don't want to consider,one example giving higher doses of morphine for pain even though they know it will likely end life,in time of crisis when everything is stretched more than ever then doing post mortems on elderly people with acute/chronic problems who were expected to die will hardly happen
I don't want to go any further into this subject
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I always wondered about the morphine and assisting the dying in their final hours. The rest is wrong though and resources do not come into it. I am off out now to murder a few of the old residents of our block that have been getting on my tits with arsenic. They never stop chatting shit and moaning and groaning so they have it coming to them. Adios.
 
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