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urban genie said:
I have, against my better nature had a few hours out in the pub with a couple of mates

We have however, not shook hands, sat away from people, used sanitizer, taken the glasses back kto the bar as is recomended and other precautions.

The ammount of others acting normally is ridiculous.

We asked a guy who was picking his nose is he worried, his answer "wel lI am gonna die anyway and this might be my last night in a pub so gonna enjoy myself", asked why not at least take precautions, said "I am not the first person ar this table why would sanitizing my hands make a difference".

Johnsons own level of apathy has encouragd this stupidity.
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Same where I'm very been pal
 
birch villa said:
Same where I'm very been pal
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urban genie said:
I have, against my better nature had a few hours out in the pub with a couple of mates

We have however, not shook hands, sat away from people, used sanitizer, taken the glasses back kto the bar as is recomended and other precautions.

The ammount of others acting normally is ridiculous.

We asked a guy who was picking his nose is he worried, his answer "wel lI am gonna die anyway and this might be my last night in a pub so gonna enjoy myself", asked why not at least take precautions, said "I am not the first person ar this table why would sanitizing my hands make a difference".

Johnsons own level of apathy has encouragd this stupidity.
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Just human flotsam.
 
Uffa said:
You won't be making jokes when you find only a fork in front of you and an undead grandma serving spaghetti.
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If it’s my abuela it’ll be this after dinner, coronavirus be damned.

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Chippy_boy said:
They most definitely are either (a) wrong, or (b) being dishonest. Let me explain why:

You cannot transfer immunity for any virus from one person to another. You get immunity by either catching it, or by being vaccinated. That's assuming you can get immunity from this by catching it and there is even a question mark over that. But let's assume that you can.

For herd immunity to work, it is estimated that 60% of the herd - the UK public - need to have immunity. i.e. 60% of the people in the UK need to catch it for this to work. You need 60% so that every time a new person is infected, they go on to inflect less than 1 other person, and then the virus naturally dies out. At the moment, each infected person is infecting between 2 and 3 other people, which is why the numbers are exploding exponentially. So 60% of the UK population need to catch it, some to die and some to recover. Until then, it continues to spread virulently.

60% of the UK population circa 40m people. Even if we were to spread this infection out evenly over 2 years, it's still nearly 2m people per month. The NHS cannot cope with anything like that. Not even close. And that's assuming no peaks, which is ludicrous. Of course there will be a peak.

So the herd immunity line is a complete lie. It's technically possible, provided we simply accept hundreds of thousands of deaths as an unavoidable outcome. A calculation on a spreadsheet might suggest it is a possible course of action. In the real world, with thousands upon thousands of lives at stake, it is a complete non-starter.
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The points about herd immunity look totally right to me.

The question for the NHS is how many people are going to need treatment and how many will just get better - I haven't seen anything definite to define that.
 
urban genie said:
I have, against my better nature had a few hours out in the pub with a couple of mates

We have however, not shook hands, sat away from people, used sanitizer, taken the glasses back kto the bar as is recomended and other precautions.

The ammount of others acting normally is ridiculous.

We asked a guy who was picking his nose is he worried, his answer "wel lI am gonna die anyway and this might be my last night in a pub so gonna enjoy myself", asked why not at least take precautions, said "I am not the first person ar this table why would sanitizing my hands make a difference".

Johnsons own level of apathy has encouragd this stupidity.
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Looks like natural selection is kicking in with this virus and a disproportionate number of terminally stupid people will cop it.
 
Coronavirus death toll in Italy rises to 1,441


MILAN, March 14 (Reuters) - The death toll in Italy’s coronavirus outbreak rose to 1,441 on Saturday, up almost 14% from the 1,266 total reported a day earlier, the civil protection authority said on Saturday.

The total number of cases rose to 21,157 from 17,660, the authority said. Italy remains the worst affected country in Europe and second only to China, where the highly infectious virus first emerged.

The agency said 1,966 patients had recovered from the disease, which broke out in the north of the country on Feb. 21, compared to 1,439 the day before.

The number of patients in intensive care rose to 1,518 against a previous 1,328. (Reporting by James Mackenzie Editing by Frances Kerry)
 
Blue Hefner said:


Look at the fucking state of him. Apparently shaking hand yesterday was a reflex but before being a politician he didn't believe in hand shaking
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That was the performance of someone under the influence or who was losing it, and who could only be exposed to people for a short period.
Gets question - doesn't answer it, but talks of himself, or slates the Federal Reserve again.
Gets question - doesn't answer it, but says how great everything is, and that it's other people's fault (he managed not to insult the Democrats though)
Wanders off, and on the third attempt manages to leave.

Then Pence steps up, and the difference in clarity is night and day.
 
Reporter: are you going to extend the travel ban to the UK?
Trump: we're thinking about it

five minutes later...
Pence: the travel ban will be extended to the UK on Monday night

It's almost as if he can't remember.
 
Had to postpone our honeymoon yesterday so gutted about that after booking it 2 year ago. Managed to push it back to end of September so not too bad

Wedding next Friday and shitting it right now. Could lose the lot of it if one of us picks the virus up. Family from abroad (including the mrs dad and brother) might not be able to get over either. Right shit at the moment, but at least we have our health (at the moment anyway). The mrs suffers from very bad anxiety and it’s making her unwell with all the worrying.
 
Italy now reporting 1,441 deaths, nearly half the figure of total deaths reported by China, but the deaths in Italy have all happened within the space of three weeks. Truly horrific.
 
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