COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Churchlawtonblue]

Based on the comments from footballers who have tested positive, ranging from it feeling like a cold or in some cases being asymptotic, it’s not hard to believe this. Didn’t the figures in China shoot up when they started testing everyone in hospital and not just those showing symptoms?

I realise there are quite a few unknowns about this virus but the one thing this does tell me is if many people have got this already then the death rate will actually be lower, and hopefully much lower than the official figures.

 

[George Hannah]

All the family had that horrific coughing flu over Christmas. Non stop coughing for nigh on 2 weeks. I hadn't been ill for so long (I put it down to a heavy exercise routine) but yesterday I once again came down with feeling awful. Last night I had shiver, stomach pains, sickness and muscle aches...haven't felt to rough for some time. No respiratory issues however. Perhaps it's the anxiety over all this manifesting into an illness (felt like food poisoning tbf).

different bug I think - a lot of us got that one

 

[BlueHammer85]

When is boris government status announcements on daily ? I want to just watch that advice and Switch off from all the other news sources and social forums

 

[paulchapo]

If the first reported case from China was 31st December I expect this to have certainly been around from a month to six weeks earlier. And it will have been more widespread than Wuhan too.

Yes it's hard to say as these dates also coincide with the flu season. It does make you think though. I was in Tenerife over Christmas and returned the 11th January. I started feeling Ill just before I left then I was absolutely wiped out when I got home. High fever cough and absolutely no energy. I slept for almost four days, just drinking liquid and going to the toilet in between but no food. The apartment I rented was owned by an Italian too. Nobody knows of course, still can't completely shake the cough off though.

 

[route46]

They are your kids mate tell them to fuck off.

Pretty much did do.

Told her I had a job to do as a father and she had a job to do as a headteacher and we would agree to disagree.

She seemed more arsed about keeping up the school attendance record then some deadly virus knocking about.

 

[domalino]

Yes it's hard to say as these dates also coincide with the flu season. It does make you think though. I was in Tenerife over Christmas and returned the 11th January. I started feeling Ill just before I left then I was absolutely wiped out when I got home. High fever cough and absolutely no energy. I slept for almost four days, just drinking liquid and going to the toilet in between but no food. The apartment I rented was owned by an Italian too. Nobody knows of course, still can't completely shake the cough off though.

The problem with this theory is that no one in Tenerife died. For it to have been circulating around the world without people getting seriously ill doesn't make sense.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I have a 78 year old mother that lives with us, so if the kids get infected then she probably gets infected too.
I do agree that the elderly are at much greater risk but you wouldn't want to take a chance with anyone, young or old.

Absolutely. We are currently practicing ‘social distancing’ which means not seeing the grandkids this week. We will miss that a lot but probably sensible.

 

[paulchapo]

The problem with this theory is that no one in Tenerife died. For it to have been circulating around the world without people getting seriously ill doesn't make sense.

It's not really a theory it just makes you think, none of us know or will know. I'm sure people did die in Tenerife but as the virus wasn't that well known it would have just been attributed to pneumonia or such if elderly, as it effects those the most

 

[Saddleworth2]

Nope. Wrong again. The majority may be but young, healthy people are still dying from it.

Wrong again? Wtf.
Not wrong according to the mortality charts I have see.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Yes it's hard to say as these dates also coincide with the flu season. It does make you think though. I was in Tenerife over Christmas and returned the 11th January. I started feeling Ill just before I left then I was absolutely wiped out when I got home. High fever cough and absolutely no energy. I slept for almost four days, just drinking liquid and going to the toilet in between but no food. The apartment I rented was owned by an Italian too. Nobody knows of course, still can't completely shake the cough off though.

mate we were in Tenerife new year I had a horrendous cough as did my family took 6 weeks to shift but it’s peak I could not sleep as coughing so violently

looking around Tenerife loads were coughing.

 

[M18CTID]

The problem with this theory is that no one in Tenerife died. For it to have been circulating around the world without people getting seriously ill doesn't make sense.

How do we know that there weren't deaths already but no-one was aware of Covid-19 back then? Remember that the first mention was December 31st but the first known case has now been confirmed as November 17th and the poster you quote was on holiday over Christmas, so maybe some of the earlier ones were attributed to seasonal flu? I'm not specifically speaking about Tenerife as such - more the whole planet

 

[Saddleworth2]

This is why people are talking about 70+

@Fred_Quimby this is what I was referring to.

 

[domalino]

It's not really a theory it just makes you think, none of us know or will know. I'm sure people did die in Tenerife but as the virus wasn't that well known it would have just been attributed to pneumonia or such if elderly, as it effects those the most

It's got very different symptoms though, and they'd have traced it back. There would be lots of people getting infected with a history of being in Tenerife a few weeks earlier.

Take a read of this and see just how insanely accurate government tracing of infections is. They know everything about all of those people and the people they came into contact with.

 

[cibaman]

mate we were in Tenerife new year I had a horrendous cough as did my family took 6 weeks to shift but it’s peak I could not sleep as coughing so violently

looking around Tenerife loads were coughing.

You don’t think it could be that we’re all more aware of people coughing at the moment?

 

[mayo31]

Mate I think your posts on herd immunity are well intentioned and you clearly understand the logic behind the theory.

But the Health Secretary Matt Hancock said yesterday that herd immunity was not the official government strategy.

The WHO and wider scientific community were alarmed at the noises that it was an official position.

Until someone from the UK government dies, I don’t think it’s helpful to be spreading it (pun intended).

I’d encourage you to read this article from Matt Hanage who researches and teaches the evolution and epidemiology of infectious disease at Harvard’s Chan School of Public Health.

He’s more qualified than any of us to pass comment. His initial reaction when he heard the UK government’s position was herd immunity is that he thought it was satire.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...st-britain-herd-immunity-coronavirus-covid-19

Altered to be better

 

[SilverFox2]

Pretty much did do.

Told her I had a job to do as a father and she had a job to do as a headteacher and we would agree to disagree.

She seemed more arsed about keeping up the school attendance record then some deadly virus knocking about.

Certainly preparing for the worst outcome usually prevents it happening.

Even though our region in Spain is largely unaffected we have been forced to abide by a lockdown order for the whole country.
Prevention is better than cure and frankly everyone seems to accept that extreme measures are needed.

 

[squirtyflower]

Pretty much did do.

Told her I had a job to do as a father and she had a job to do as a headteacher and we would agree to disagree.

She seemed more arsed about keeping up the school attendance record then some deadly virus knocking about.

The advice we have given schools is to code the absence as a ‘Y’, which doesn’t affect their attendance figures, and allows parents to do what they feel is right.

 

[Blue Hefner]

 

[SWP's back]

https://www.newsweek.com/china-traces-coronavirus-back-first-confirmed-patient-zero-1492327

Earliest confirmed case in the world was November 17.

He asked when the discovery was announced.

“On 31 December 2019, the World Health Organization (WHO) was informed of a cluster of cases of pneumonia of unknown cause detected in Wuhan City, Hubei Province, China. On 12 January 2020, it was announced that a novel coronavirus had been identified in samples obtained from cases and that initial analysis of virus genetic sequences suggested that this was the cause of the outbreak.”

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-for-staff-in-the-transport-sector

Top pedantry though.

 

[paulchapo]

mate we were in Tenerife new year I had a horrendous cough as did my family took 6 weeks to shift but it’s peak I could not sleep as coughing so violently

looking around Tenerife loads were coughing.

It was a nightmare.