COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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BobKowalski said:
Mortgage holiday doesn’t extend to buy to let mortgages if I recall.
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Mine's a straight mortgage, bought to live in but after we moved. My plan was to leave the tenants there as I've the cash for covering 3 months and then I'm going to fight like fucking hell.
 
Uffa said:
Yep, in this article
the age factor is explained pretty clearly, plus as you said patient 1 (we don't know who patient 0 was) had the virus for weeks while he was running two marathons around various towns and went out to play amateur football. When he fell ill he went to the hospital/GP (thus infecting loads more elderly and frail people) but they didn't identify it as covid-19 and sent him home with medicament. Then he was brought back to the hospital when it turned life-threatening but they only diagnosed it as covid-19 when he was already in ICU. So his second trip to the hospital also infected other people. So not a very lucky situation for our first covid patient.

I don't know if age + our bad luck with patient 1 explains it all, but it certainly explains a bit of it.
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There is a reason why the North of Italy is affected more than others. My girlfriends sister lives there and she says it is mostly old people and tourists, awful combination.

They are also a more sociable culture, ignorant to rules and they are the first in Europe to experience this without the hindsight knowledge that everyone else has.

It is kind of like the smoking ban, in the UK everyone practices it without question now whereas in Italy it is still often ignored.
 
blue b4 the moon said:
@Uffa obviously wishing you all the best over there but, with the numbers of deaths, and I really hope this doesn't come across insensitive but what's happening with the bodies/funerals?
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Well speaking about funerals in general, you can't have ceremonies in church obviously. Those will need to be postponed to when we can go out again.
What you'll have is the bare and simple burial, with a very small group of only close family attending. I know it because my friend's grandma died of stroke a couple days ago and they had a quick burial with only close family attending. They had a priest there say some words.
As for covid-related deaths though, there is more safety measures in place of course. I don't know the specifics but once the body is taken from the hospital I reckon they allow a burial with some family attending maybe? I don't know I'll have to inform myself. I'll get back to you.

Edit: alright apparently if it's a covid-related death the undertakers/funeral parlours need to be in full protective gear and sanitize everything of course, plus very few people can attend the burial. The problem is in the worst hit towns (like Bergamo) they've been having trouble finding room in their graveyards so you either have them wait more for the coffin to be buried or you cremate them. So a lot of covid-19 victims in some northern towns are being cremated.
 
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I wondered what you were meant to do with the tissues in the bin once you'd done the "catch it, bin it" thing.

Waste from possible cases and cleaning of areas where possible cases have been (including disposable cloths and tissues):
  1. Should be put in a plastic rubbish bag and tied when full.
  2. The plastic bag should then be placed in a second bin bag and tied.
  3. It should be put in a suitable and secure place and marked for storage until the individual’s test results are known.
Waste should be stored safely and kept away from children. You should not put your waste in communal waste areas until negative test results are known or the waste has been stored for at least 72 hours.
  • if the individual tests negative, this can be put in with the normal waste
  • if the individual tests positive, then store it for at least 72 hours and put in with the normal waste
If storage for at least 72 hours is not appropriate, arrange for collection as a Category B infectious waste either by your local waste collection authority if they currently collect your waste or otherwise by a specialist clinical waste contractor. They will supply you with orange clinical waste bags for you to place your bags into so the waste can be sent for appropriate treatment.


https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...19-decontamination-in-non-healthcare-settings
 
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