COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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I am now getting abit scared of this , I dont really want to go to work or mix with people. But I have Bill's to pay so have to work, I work for the local council doing jobs like grass cutting, litter picking, clearing allotments etc, missus works in a solicitors and my lad in halfords and his girlfriend in the local hospital. My missus is diabetic and really worried about her.
I hope I am overly worried more than I need to be. But with so many places closing now it just seems as if the workers are being put at risk now. I know we need to work as I pay private rent I have to work as the government hasnt done anything for private renters.

Stay safe everyone....

Think we are all a bit scared for family and friends, best post I read yesterday was when somebody posted that at the present time you have a very small chance of getting it, a very small chance of needing hospital treatment and an even smaller chance of dying. Stay strong we are all on this together.
 
First time I've dropped in here for a while. This thread is more depressing than the Match Day one.

You should try the Brexit thread!

I had a tour of duty there in 2018 for around 3 months and I’m still waiting for RIc to allocate a star above my username. BM have lost some good people to that thread
 
Do we know which household cleaning products kill the virus? What should we be using for wiping surfaces?
 
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US college did a report on what would happen if everyone went about their business and they went for the herd immunity approach.



from the author of the Imperial College Report - seems he's a victim

reading the US rubbishing of the Imperial College report on that twitter thread won't make him feel any better either
 
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I think takeaways might do ok (especially if they offer delivery) as there's no food left on the shelves.

Not Chinese though right....

I've so far managed to avoid going to the supermarket. I'm likely to have to pop into one today though. Is there really no food left on the shelves? No soup, bread, butter, beans, potatoes? Not to arsed about fresh meat as I'll go without for a few weeks if necessary.
 
Do we know which household cleaning products kill the virus? What should we be using for wiping surfaces?
Apparently there is a 100% effective product being developed as we speak in Liverpool. Production of ‘Dipper Tears’ caustic cleaner is expected to go into overdrive if, as expected, the Premier League declare this season null and void
 
It’s worth remembering as it stands right now, your chances of even getting it are extremely low. If you do get it then your chances of being very ill are low. If you get it and are very ill then your chances of dying are low.

All of that remaining the case is dependent on all of our actions though. It is our behaviours as a society now that will dictate whether the overall cases stay in the tens to hundreds of thousands (and so either less or considerably less than a 1 in 50 chance of getting it) or not.

The issue now is one of how best to influence behaviour to make sure that either stays the same or reduces. People have to isolate and treat every outside source and object as potentially contaminated. If we all do that (and stricter measures will come to enforce us doing it) then the vast majority will be fine.

We are screwed economically, as is everyone. That is recoverable though. Life isn’t.
The good news today is China where any new infections are outsiders returning.
The problem of course is taking the course of action this totalitarian state used.
As.yet the UK seems to be unable to bring itself to do this all at once seemingly preferring to wait for public opinion to demand it as it gradually imposes the vital changes.

I hope that UK leaders are right.
 
I think takeaways might do ok (especially if they offer delivery) as there's no food left on the shelves.
To be fair, when I went to the supermarket on Tuesday there were quite a few empty shelves. But there was plenty of food. Not all of it was the type that I normally buy, lots of my usual stuff that I couldn’t get. But still more than enough if I wanted to contribute to the obesity crisis.
 
Do we know which household cleaning products kill the virus? What should we be using for wiping surfaces?
Common diluted bleach or 70% alcohol apparently work fine for killing it.
For cleaning, use your usual cleaning products.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/cleaning-disinfection.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/home/cleaning-disinfection.html
Full list of EPA-registered disinfectants: https://www.epa.gov/pesticide-registration/list-n-disinfectants-use-against-sars-cov-2
 
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Just been notified by Ofsted that they are suspending all inspections and registrations of new homes, forthwith.... the inspections I get, expected it, however, I’ve just literally taken on 14 new staff to work in my proposed new children’s homes, with 8 already having left previous jobs. Also had the green light on 4 young people to place, yet now I can’t due to registration..

Today will not be a good day, despite extenuating circumstances!
 
Uh, apparently yesterday a column of large military trucks passed through Bergamo because they were carrying the coffins to other towns incinerators since their own can only cremate so much bodies.

It’s a sad time in Bergamo. The incinerators in Bergamo were closed down for a period (they closed a couple of weeks ago but I’m not sure how long for). This might have contributed to the convoy being required??.

I know this because Tancredi Palmeri claimed in a tweet that churches were overflowing with bodies but this want true and it’s upset a lot of local people. They were being used to store lots of coffins. I’m not sure if this was mixture of coffins for people who had died and having coffins ready for expected deaths.

it’s sad that the deaths continue to increase despite the lockdowns.
 
Owner of the company i work at has just said " it's all a load of bollocks, more people die from Malaria or flu, no one is working from home".
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Swine flu cases lasted around 13 months but only 214 people died in Britain in the year. I had it, it was like having a shocking bout of normal flu that took me out for a week. But it didn’t lead to pneumonia apart from in those who would already likely have died of respiratory failure soon anyway.

I was 21 when SARS was here so don’t remember it too well but while it’s pretty much the same virus as what is going round now (this is actually called SARS-CoV-2), it only infected 8,000 people worldwide and killed 800.

This SARS 2 is an extremely contagious version of that original SARS. Both related to selling meat of civets, raccoons, ferret badgers, cats and bats to eat and the virus jumping from them to us.

SARS 1 was easier to get a handle on in the end as the key issue of containment as the 2003 version only became infectious at the point of symptoms unlike this one.

if I recall correctly the vaccine was never produced in the end as it had died out which is a shame as we would have learned a lot from that.
 
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