COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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plongo said:
Sedition doesn't exist in China, whilst we are a society full of know-it-all self-serving mavericks AKA dickheads. For a prime example look at all those "earth mothers/fathers who won't get their kids immunised against MMR because they know better
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You may be right but other European countries including Spain seem to be able to accept things have to done. Cannot believe UK is that different.
 
kippaxwarrior said:
GMPTE are massively scalling down all public transport within Manchester from next week. Looks like it'll be skeleton services only
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They've cordoned off the first two rows in Stockholm and everyone has to get on and off at the back.
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THey will start testing everyones temperature in the lobby at work from Monday. Sending people home if they're over 37,6C.
 
Blue Maverick said:
Ghost train
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Understandable to scale back, given how many are now working from home, but the negative side is that those who still have to travel to work and rely on public transport will be travelling on trains, trams, and buses that could be every bit as packed as normal which in turn makes it difficult to keep one's distance
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
you really think we aren't doing anything?

ok then.
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I was referring to the post that inferred the UK was full of people who are incapable of changing their habit of doing as they please. I am certain measures have been taken not only to stop the virus spread but also to enforce any civil disobedience resulting from changes.
 
meltonblue said:
It’s worth remembering as it stands right now, your chances of even getting it are extremely low. If you do get it then your chances of being very ill are low. If you get it and are very ill then your chances of dying are low.

All of that remaining the case is dependent on all of our actions though. It is our behaviours as a society now that will dictate whether the overall cases stay in the tens to hundreds of thousands (and so either less or considerably less than a 1 in 50 chance of getting it) or not.

The issue now is one of how best to influence behaviour to make sure that either stays the same or reduces. People have to isolate and treat every outside source and object as potentially contaminated. If we all do that (and stricter measures will come to enforce us doing it) then the vast majority will be fine.

We are screwed economically, as is everyone. That is recoverable though. Life isn’t.
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It's in our hands (or was) to determine whether this is a "blip" lasting a few months, following by moderate restrictions for the remainder of the year or so until there is a vaccine, and then back to normal fairly quickly.

OR

Whether it's drawn out over months and quarters, with a much higher peak, many more people dying, much longer for the peak to die down, many more businesses going bust. And then the economy being very slow to recover next year because many businesses have been lost.

And the moment we are following the latter path. This needs to change IMMEDIATELY. No more of this "we're looking at it", and "by the end of the week, we might consider" bla bla bla. Its is helping no-one. Perhaps they think they are trying to disrupt peoples' ways of life as little as possible? Well, that DOES NOT WORK. Dithering and delay simply means unavoidable, painful changes for much longer.

We can see this already. Now we have a total clamp down on over 70's going out of their own homes, for 12 weeks. Had we had a broader clamp down sooner, the infected numbers would be MUCH lower, the corresponding risk of infection would be MUCH lower and such harsh measures might not have been needed or not needed for so long.
 
give it to gordon said:
We arent happy about it ....she didn't find out until she got to work than her lad rung her. She than came into the tearoom and told us , we told her to get out and go home , she did after about 5 minutes of us saying go home. She than walked around the town for an hour and a half before telling the office, who sent her home. The lad that gave her a lift was in close contact with us as he didnt tell us he gave her a lift until half an hour later.....now we have been told to carry on working with only her been sent home ....I am not happy about this
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Give it to Gordon understandably worried that he may have been given it.
 
i travel to and from work on buses in bournemouth/poole area and would say they are only about a third full and that's at peak periods. they are talking of running a saturday timetable soon, i can see london on lockdown by saturday with rest of country following to some level
 
This need time to be put in place, you can’t just go as of tonight at 6 there is a curfew, many people in London especially live in the city during the week and go home at weekends, I think today they will announce you have until Sunday to get home as we go on lockdown from Monday. Police etc need time to get plans in order, get the army in the airports and other places to release police back onto the streets. They have had this planned to drip feed it otherwise you’d have pandemonium on the streets today.
 
Sainsbury's this a.m. pensioners' hour... a few toilet rolls for the earliest shoppers. They soon went. One old man snatched a pack out of a woman's trolley, security stopped him, he sat down on one of the self-checkout desks and refused to move. I left before police arrived. (If he did it after she'd paid, it would be theft!)

No paracetemol of course, no pasta, I got plenty of soup and wine (but the wine shelves were a bit depleted...)
 
SWP's back said:
Anti bacterial spray? On a virus. Hmm
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Many biocides work on both bacteria and viruses, there are many variables which impact the efficacy. For most household applications people are trying to kill bacteria, hence the name. Testing is also expensive, you can only make claims on the label if you have tested. commercial products, such as hospitality and food production are more likely to have the additional testing and labelling for viruses, although broadly speaking components are the same. Commercial products tend to be more concentrated and act quicker too.
 
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