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i8rags said:
I honestly despair, he even said it really is quite simple, unless absolutely necessary don’t work.
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No. He. Didn't. He never said don't work, he said unless its absolutely necessary, don't leave the house, unless you can't work from home. Totally different. Unsurprisingly for many paying the bills is absolutely necessary, and most can't work from home.
 
twosips said:
Starting to think all this confusion is on purpose so some businesses are pressured into being closed by their staff so the government don't have to bail them out with the 80% wage thing. If the government don't force them to close, they don't have to subsidise the wages... if not, there's no fucking excuse for Johnson saying one thing, then releasing a load of social media videos saying another thing, then deleting it all.
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im pretty sure they will pay any companys 80 per cent wage bill iff they have to lay them off as long as they promise there is a job for them when the lockdowns over
 
abu13 said:
Where?
I must be deaf then, I have listened to it 3 times and not heard that, he did go on to say about travel to work if essential but my reading was that this meant if you can not do your job from home.

The fact that everyone is debating his comments backs up that the instruction is unclear.
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Clear as fucking day, people hear what they want to hear, do not go out unless absolutely essential. Anyway these even questioning are off their nut
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
You need an ASBO - an Attention Seeking Bastard Order!

No **** is making you stay indoors under total lockdown 24 hours a day. You’re not a prisoner and it’s not impressive that you think you’re not going to listen to the instructions given to you.

You can go out to exercise and get some shopping. So can everyone! I can, and I will. I’ll be going for a jog and for a cycle every few days. But I’m not going on about being a rebel!

You’re just after attention, surely?

Many people have called a phone, use that to talk to friends and family. If you can’t handle that for a while I think you need to grow some bollocks.

Unless you’re going to get a gathering of people together outside you’re not doing anything anyone else in the country has been told to do. That’s not rebellious.

If you are going out and getting a gathering of people together I hope you get a £1500+ fine like what’s happening in Spain. And I hope no **** gives you a penny towards it.
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Me, my wife and two kids haven’t left our house for 11 days (except I take the dog for a 5min walk twice a day). Not one single complaint from any of us. The kids have been absolutely brilliant so far and the time is going so quick.

Some people need to get a grip.
 
Ban-jani said:
Well then you have zero understanding of the wider implications of such authoritarian measures in western politics.

I cannot fathom how you can not grasp that sometimes the right thing to do will leave you uneasy.
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Yes, let's all be worried that this is leading to some mass end of democracy and that through these actions we could save tens of thousands of lives nationally and millions globally. Uneasy? I will sleep uneasy - because he hasn't gone far enough. You'll sleep uneasy because your Dianne Abbott pillow can't be dry-cleaned for a few weeks.
 
Coatigan said:
If they had just imposed full lockdown weeks ago, it would have felt draconian, authoritarian and a blow to morale, nit to mention how many would actually beleive it necessary or beneficial. The chaos on societu would be huge.

By giving the public the chance to self impose it, and doing it incrementally, they are giving the public time and the chance to get there themselves, and finally buy into it. Its highly unfortunate that is how long it seems to take, and that is how many lives it puts at risk. But we are not s.korea, or other nations, there is a culture to know and work with.
Incidentally, the gov thenselves have been somewhat naive at the start, but since they have started on a route, it has been predictable and gradual, and as i said before, i myself welcome it over a snap change. Which for the record i'd have fully accepted. This however will be far mir palatable and many may even support it that otherwise would have resisted it, had they not been given the time and sense to get there themselves.
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This is fair too sensible to be on this thread/forum.

People are saying we should have gone full lockdown two weeks ago, well by now we’d have had mass disobedience and far more totally against it in the media and public.

I fully expect a total lockdown in the coming days, we’re gradually getting there, as you say.

To those saying well being gradual is costing lives, it’ll actually save lives in the long run as these measures will last longer and see us into the summer, where things will improve in the NHS.
 
jay_mcfc said:
Me, my wife and two kids haven’t left our house for 11 days (except I take the dog for a 5min walk twice a day). Not one single complaint from any of us. The kids have been absolutely brilliant so far and the time is going so quick.

Some people need to get a grip.
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But what about the all seeing government eye? This is 1984 and saving lives should make us all uneasy.
 
inchy14 said:
Told mine I’m not coming in, work drying up anyway plus I’ve been coughing all day so better to be safe, he’s not overly impressed but basically told him to get to fuck.
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If you have bee coughing all day he has no right to expect you in work as you should self-isolate.
 
Ban-jani said:
This is fair too sensible to be on this thread/forum.

People are saying we should have gone full lockdown two weeks ago, well by now we’d have had mass disobedience and far more totally against it in the media and public.

I fully expect a total lockdown in the coming days, we’re gradually getting there, as you say.

To those saying well being gradual is costing lives, it’ll actually save lives in the long run as these measures will last longer and see us into the summer, where things will improve in the NHS.
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this.
After the weekends shenanigans I’d have been happy to see troops in the streets.
Last week I would have thought it over the top.
I now think it’s inevitable.
 
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