COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Gabriel]

The government should act immediately to help in any way it can to improve availability of delivery services - e.g. getting the army to do some - and also require the supermarkets to control numbers and safe distances.

Said weeks ago that taxi companies and their drivers should be redeployed in this area, and van hire companies should have their vehicles commandeered as well. The State needs to do more to stop people seeking an excuse to go out.

 

[sky tot]

Plenty cars going past my house lots ov people I know at work ( most self employed ) this needs clarity for non essential workers and importantly some assurance to self employed

Spot on mate , I’ve posted a paragraph from Piers morgan & gove interview on Self employed thread

 

[RACHACE]

A lot of building sites are closed or are closing. Barratt homes sites anyway.

 

[west didsblue]

The supermarkets only had the capacity to deliver 7-8% of their total sales before the crisis began. No doubt they can significantly increase that, especially if the army get involved. But i would be very pleasantly surprised if they can increase it to 20% in the next few weeks. Most of that capacity will be reserved for the 1.5m, I don’t think it will be widely available.

They need to issue some guidelines on frequency of shopping. I heard one suggestion that we should restrict it to once a week. Which would be good from the point of view of restricting contact, but would inevitably mean that people will stockpile. Not sure what the right balance is.

They need to open 24 hours to spread out the footfall as much as possible.

 

[Marvin]

yep. This will be extended with stricter measures in a couple weeks as people just don’t get the message.

That's one line of thought. Another would be that workers are not flouting anything. Their employer expects them in for work and they have to go in. Retail sector was locked down yesterday but when you read the guidance on gov.uk, there's large sectors of the economy for example industrial and construction who are not mentioned.

They are gradually tightening. They've been doing this all along. It's deliberate. Taking a laissez-faire attitude towards a replicating virus is just going to reduce but not stop its transmission. It's quite deliberate but I am at a loss to understand why they would do this. I have a theory that they are still following their original mitigation strategy of infecting the herd but that you have to take a very dim view of humanity to accept that. But what else is there?

We seem to be the only European country who are adopting such a relaxed view. I don't feel relaxed but you know what I mean.

 

[Coatigan]

Sorry but that is bollocks, telling people groups will not be allowed but you can do exercise on parks ect with people from your household. What a joke the police are in an impossible situation because of it.

How about every **** stays inside and you go in your garden that's it.

All that basically means is parents can take their young children outdoors. They are trying to cover groups with wording. I think itl be obvious where groups arent from a household. And, again, that isnt the point, it is that the public should be trusted to do the right thing and not exploit the wording.

 

[birch villa]

Piers Morgan apoplectic with rage again today. Losing it with his own colleague Ranvir Singh. It was a bit out of order and rude really. He’s furious with the government but taking it out on his own reporters.

The guy is like marmite , but I for one am glad he is banging the drum for self employed etc and the clarity needed. But as you say no excuse to be rude

 

[Chippy_boy]

A minor point but I'm finding it irritating that no one in government can say they got it wrong. Gove this morning got it wrong about shared custody but then came back and said he wasn't clear. He fucking was clear, he was clearly wrong.

It's an unfortunate and undesirable side effect of our adversarial political system where admitting error is seized upon by opposition as an opportunity to amplify criticism and make political gain. It's a shame. People understand everyone is only human and we all make mistakes.

"My apologies, I got that wrong" is a statement we hardly ever hear and that is a shame. I think people would - in the main - respect it.

 

[Gabriel]

Cheadle Hulme very quiet

Doe this mean you've already had your daily exercise? ;-)

 

[journolud]

Do we have to do the exercising once a day thing? That’s going to be a real shock to the system for some lazy fuckers

 

[sir baconface]

They need to issue some guidelines on frequency of shopping. I heard one suggestion that we should restrict it to once a week. Which would be good from the point of view of restricting contact, but would inevitably mean that people will stockpile. Not sure what the right balance is.

I don’t know the answer either but that’s no use if you can’t find necessities on your one outing.

 

[cibaman]

Another example of the lack of clarity this morning:


Even the government are getting it wrong.

There needs to be a lot stronger message at some point today.

It’s unrealistic to expect the government to have dotted every i and crossed every t when they make these announcements. I

 

[Tricky_Trev]

Can't believe he told us to use supermarket delivery services, you can't book one for love nor money.

Yeah, said this straight after the announcement. Nothing much changed. People still have to go to work and people will still fight with each other at supermarkets because the food delivery services are at breaking point. And the 1 exercise allowed per day rule is a joke. Exercise should have been restricted to the home/garden. You don’t need to ride a bike or go jogging to keep fit. Joe Wicks is doing amazing work (free of charge) to prove that. People will just whack their trainers on, so what they want and just start running when they are confronted. It’s no different to yesterday and they need to crack the whip ASAP.

Unless of course this is all part of the herd immunity plan. They got pelters for saying it was the plan initially (quite rightly), so perhaps they have now decided to keep it as a key part of the plan but disguise it a bit.

 

[sir baconface]

If you wake up with a morning glory are you allowed two exercises that day?

 

[Coatigan]

It’s a lot slower in the UK! I haven’t left the house for 11 days, Madrid even longer. The UK government had the experiences of China, Italy and Spain to consider and still waited long after most of the world’s major countries to go on a ‘lockdown’.

It is a balancing act, of keeping the NHS from collapsing, the economy from bursting, and society from imploding.

Too much too soon, might help one, others get gubbed. Too slow too late likewise. Each is as important for the other two as they are to themselves. All about buying time.

 

[mexico1970]

Just had a text confirming that I have to stay at home but loads of caveats to that, it's a bit wishy washy lots of wiggle room and there is no way on earth that these recommendations will stop the spread of this virus. They are even moving the at risk criteria about to suit them, noticing that they have removed diabetics from the at risk group.

Children can be ferried about from house to house, people can still go to work if the employer decides they can and people crammed onto trains and buses, you can go shopping. have exersize ,it's IMO a cocktail for tragedy just because there isn't the will to nail peoples feet to the floor.

 

[Marvin]

They need to open 24 hours to spread out the footfall as much as possible.

Reducing the no. of tubes hasn't worked.

I'd be getting quite frightened now if I was in London.

It's evident from China, South korea, Singapore, Japan, Germany and even Italy that a combination of testing and lockdowns work. Do it properly. It's the most basic function expected of government.

 

[Gabriel]

They need to open 24 hours to spread out the footfall as much as possible.

Supermarkets could also reconfigure their stores. There is precious little need for clothing and other such items at this point. The space should be devoted to foodstuffs and medicines as much as possible, and dry goods could be moved quite easily.

 

[i8rags]

Lots of the same posters pull fault in every decision made by the guv. Everyday after the presser, they government are incompetent or not clear, or what about this group, etc etc. people will take the piss about the exercise rules, loads still go to work, streets look busier than ever.

the fact is many many people even on this forum are sticking it to exactly what is instructed. I know no one outside key workers that are working. We have a large family group and friends, none are visiting, we don’t go out for anything, food is ordered and been delivered. Apart from the weekend park scenario, it’s dead outside in general.
Almost every fucker gets it.
but in a fast moving scenario clarity is not always clear immediately, it will be.
I’m noticing a split between those that are staying in and those that don’t know what to do or are reluctant.
the stay in group, class everyone else as murderers more or less, idiots in the extreme.
The still not sure group can’t or won’t make decisions until every single thing is clarified.
Not for me to decide for you either in or out.
But clearly noticeable

 

[Coatigan]

Well as Jenrick has tweeted and confirmed construction sites can remain open, Ashley expects Sports Direct workers to clock in, all emergency services workers and workers in shops that sell food and medicines will be going into work it may be hard to define and identify those wankers if they exist at all. The restrictions are so loose I'd expect most of those who went to work today will go tomorrow. They aren't being wankers they are just being compelled or allowed to.

No not really. A whole range of places got shut yesterday, explicitly. A list of them. Some may look for wriggle room, some sraff may challenge it, it will soon get sorted.
Others are allowed to operate. The big message is don't go out unless you really have to, dont socialise. and that will be what makes the big difference when the public start to really buy into it.