No answers from me. It’s like the Brits who went away when all this was going on, they knew but still went, some even went when it was peaking and are still stranded abroad. People had to have cruises cancelled to stop them going and still they moaned. The mass go out this weekend was bizzare to me, maybe it’s the make up of us.I'm not trying to be divisive here, or even have a go at the government. This is just something that goes through my head all the time, and I'd honestly like to know a good answer if anyone has one. It's a sincere question.
The one thing I always struggle with in regards to this approach is why we didn't buy ourselves more time? We all know they're currently scraping around to get emergency supplies for the NHS, who seem really under-prepared for all of this. There has been plenty of talks about a lack of beds, needing more nurses and so on. The staff haven't even got the right uniforms.
This has lead to loads of companies diversifying and creating equipment who don't usually do so - we've got one company who usually make hoovers building ventilators, we've got people like brewdog making hand sanitiser, we've got another who usually make sportswear now making scrubs for nurses etc. There's loads of actions like this to catch up to the need of supplies.
What I can't quite understand is why didn't we go full lock down very early on to buy us the time to make all this stuff and get prepared as possible? I understand that the virus wouldn't have gone away, but it would have slowed down immeasurably if only critical workers were out doing their jobs. We would have then surely bought 3/4 weeks to get prepared, and then we could have started slowly sending some people back to work, almost drip feeding the virus to the populace if necessary, and then helping those who picked it up. We'd be ready and able, with more knowledge of how to treat it too. Crucially too, we could 'turn off the tap' at any point if it felt dangerous.
If we're gonna get a peak either way, why does it have to be sooner rather than later. Lots of people keep saying 'ahh but the problem is China will get a second wave', but they're surely better prepared for another, and given we knew what was coming, couldn't we have avoided that first wave by taking drastic measures, and then delayed that peak to later in the year so we were more prepared? Is that really a bad thing? If the peak has to happen, you'd surely rather it happen a while away to get prepared for it? If we had delayed it, we'd have better equipment, a better understanding from the world's leading scientists in other countries on how to deal with this virus, and maybe even have antibody tests ready.
I don't understand why we didn't quickly lock down, get prepared, and then start slowly dealing with it and trying to gradually build this herd immunity approach. Am I missing something here? It's a sincere question.
Maybe read it again and see where it mentions anything other than the phone muggings.
No answers from me. It’s like the Brits who went away when all this was going on, they knew but still went, some even went when it was peaking and are still stranded abroad. People had to have cruises cancelled to stop them going and still they moaned. The mass go out this weekend was bizzare to me, maybe it’s the make up of us.
A few countries did though tbf.
Mum just got her delivery from Tesco, with the expected half the items missing. Including (again) milk FFS. Now I can understand the unavailability of delivery slots - fucking inconvenient though it is - but I am unaware of a national milk shortage. Fucking abysmal from Tesco to not be able to deliver ANY milk at all - full fat, semi-skimmed, fat-free, long-life or normal, in any sizes at all. Pitiful effort Tesco - hang your heads in shame. Your buying department need shooting.
They did but most did it only when it was starting to get widespread or completely out of hand like in Lombardy. I've said it before but a lot of people look at Germany as being this super-organised country who can do little wrong but they've arguably been as slow as us to react
Mrs Moon has had one, underlying conditions from a Stem Cell transplant a few years ago means her immune system is shit, I've not had one tho.I assumed that, I’ve got some underlying health issues but nothing to do with my chest
I think there are two different messages doing the rounds, one for the 12-week isolation to the 1.5m who are classed as the very highest risk and the general advice for the rest following last night's announcements.Looks like i am on the 12 week list as well then,i have to go out for my perscription today but then i am ok for 4 weeks
I know! I have been watching ours and american experts and no-one can say if i am over it,infectious still or if i have any immunity and can't get it a second time,there have been some cases of people getting it again in china,i really can't fight it off a second time in my current state,an american expert said we don't know about immunity but as you can get it from other corona viruses then we are assuming you get immunity,i am not going with assuming! I haven't heard about the antibody test yet,i will be getting that i guessYou have already had the virus Karen!!!
No answers from me. It’s like the Brits who went away when all this was going on, they knew but still went, some even went when it was peaking and are still stranded abroad. People had to have cruises cancelled to stop them going and still they moaned. The mass go out this weekend was bizzare to me, maybe it’s the make up of us.
Because insurers wouldn't pay out if they chose not to go. And the government didn't say they shouldn't go.Agree some of the million trapped abroad have only been away a couple of weeks - why oh why did they go? Bringing a million people home is going to need to be managed very carefully. There are huge risks. The savage cuts to Embassy and Consulate staff around the world are also creating huge issues - we simply don’t have sufficient staff on the ground to provide appropriate help and support.
What?I think it's unfair to level the same amount of criticism at holidaymakers as it is to those who went out on the piss on Friday. Many of them were caught between a rock and a hard place having forked out - in many cases - thousands of pounds in holidays that weren't getting cancelled on them by the airlines and hotels. My boss went to Dubai with 5 other family members last week - he didn't really want to go but he'd paid over £10,000 up front and wouldn't have got a single penny back if he'd decided not to travel. He also - somewhat naively IMO - thought he'd have less chance of catching it over there than over here due to the number of confirmed cases in the UAE at the time. And guess what?
What?
Mine doesn’t mention the 12 weeks, it just gives the standard advice notes.Mrs Moon has had one, underlying conditions from a Stem Cell transplant a few years ago means her immune system is shit, I've not had one tho.
I assumed it was selective but didn't mention health conditions.
Like the rest of the advice seems to be not clear. I suppose they're trying really hard but confusion can be a killer.
I'd have written off ten grand and thought about my health, that of my family and that of the wider public. Not even a difficult choice.I think it's unfair to level the same amount of criticism at holidaymakers as it is to those who went out on the piss on Friday. Many of them were caught between a rock and a hard place having forked out - in many cases - thousands of pounds in holidays that weren't getting cancelled on them by the airlines and hotels. My boss went to Dubai with 5 other family members last week - he didn't really want to go but he'd paid over £10,000 up front and wouldn't have got a single penny back if he'd decided not to travel. He also - somewhat naively IMO - thought he'd have less chance of catching it over there than over here due to the number of confirmed cases in the UAE at the time. And guess what?
You need to pick and eat them . If there’s no sense of smell or taste , you’re knackered.Not sure where to put this but I’ve had quite a lot of bogies up my nose recently, is this COV-19?
Jim Radcliffe playing the hero- making hand sanitise in Middlesbrough (should be rightly applauded) - pity Britains wealthiest man pays not a penny in income tax however!