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I’m sure it’s just frustration on his part that the ramp up of testing seems to be taking a long time and this is the key to ending this crisis. He does happen to be right about that.
I do like @Marvin but he needs to take a chill-pill from time to time.

It does deserve repeating, however, that he was widely lambasted, mocked even, for suggesting that Sanchez was finished (or at least considerably past his best) when we were in for him (on the last occasion) and he was bang-on about that - and to his credit I’ve never seen him bring that up despite (imo) being entitled to in the circumstances.
 
What do you mean "after all"? It was always the case and never in doubt. What did you think we needed the ventilators for, room perfume?

EDIT: LIstening to the news, seems I am mistaken. My apologies.

I had thought a CPAP machine was a ventilator. Seems not, although I have no ideas what the difference is.

The differences between CPAP biPAP and Ventilstors are listed here:
https://aeroflowinc.com/need-ventilator-instead-bipap-cpap/
Because I snore badly, I have a CPAP machine, but while ill with this hellish virus, I had to boost the pressure from 14 to 17 to sleep.
 
Anyone else think this bloke’s a bit of a loose cannon? (Not you claytop)
First he claimed half a million deaths, scaring everybody witless, then 20000, most recently 5700? I appreciate this modelling will change over time when various data is applied, but still...
He is pre eminent in his field, but he tends to start with worse case scenario and then refine, but his initial numbers stick in the public mind.
Guess who modelled mad cow disease a few years ago and, initially, predicted very high numbers for KJ disease.
 
Prof Neil Ferguson has said this morning the the rate of infection may be slowing, apparently new hospital admissions are slowing. Obviously this won’t be reflected in the number of deaths for a couple of weeks though.
The steps taken before isolation did have an effect. Not that some on here would believe it, mind.
 
I do like @Marvin but he needs to take a chill-pill from time to time.

It does deserve repeating, however, that he was widely lambasted, mocked even, for suggesting that Sanchez was finished (or at least considerably past his best) when we were in for him (on the last occasion) and he was bang-on about that - and to his credit I’ve never seen him bring that up despite (imo) being entitled to in the circumstances.

Yeah, he called the Sanchez thing right and none of us took much, if any, notice of him at the time
 
Prof Neil Ferguson has said this morning the the rate of infection may be slowing, apparently new hospital admissions are slowing. Obviously this won’t be reflected in the number of deaths for a couple of weeks though.
I’ve stopped paying attention to him. He’s as inconsistent as the Govt.
 
No they didn't. They first informed the WHO of issues on December 31st. They have, in the meantime, traced a case going back to as early as November 17th but they had no idea of that at the time
You've been conned by the CCP. They shut the whistleblowers up starting in mid December.
 
Yeah, he called the Sanchez thing right and none of us took much, if any, notice of him at the time
He was absolutely spot on, and it was certainly unconventional thinking. Everyone piled in, and yet he was right. Fair play to him for sticking to his guns and not (afaik) boasting about it afterwards.

He articulates himself well and is reasoned in his approach, but he frequently does seem to make the same point over and over which I think invites a degree of piss-taking. We all have our foibles, of course, which are there to be gently mocked, myself included, but I think he gets more than his fair share, occasionally from this quarter, but he isn’t on his own in that regard!

Would be a shame if he felt he couldn’t post in this thread going forward. It’s only the internet, after all.
 
Anyone else think this bloke’s a bit of a loose cannon? (Not you claytop)
First he claimed half a million deaths, scaring everybody witless, then 20000, most recently 5700? I appreciate this modelling will change over time when various data is applied, but still...
Best to go worst case and move back from there as you go forward.
 
What are people's thoughts on home-testing kits? I see the benefit from a household perspective i.e if someone has it they can self-isolate and try to prevent the spread between family members but I am struggling with the national benefit

I would much prefer this to be state controlled i.e a knock on the door, those who have it taken away and isolated/treated and for all data to be kept and undated centrally. I know this would be a huge drain on resources but I feel it would be the better option
 
He was absolutely spot on, and it was certainly unconventional thinking. Everyone piled in, and yet he was right. Fair play to him for sticking to his guns and not (afaik) boasting about it afterwards.

He articulates himself well and is reasoned in his approach, but he frequently does seem to make the same point over and over which I think invites a degree of piss-taking. We all have our foibles, of course, which are there to be gently mocked, myself included, but I think he gets more than his fair share, occasionally from this quarter, but he isn’t on his own in that regard!

Would be a shame if he felt he couldn’t post in this thread going forward. It’s only the internet, after all.

Don’t know why he feels he couldn’t post in this thread anymore half the posters are clueless anyway
 
Anybody else find this casual way that we're sometimes seeing of talking about “the Chinese virus” as thoroughly distasteful, and borderline racist? God knows, I have no love for the Chinese authorities, having worked in China for a year and seen close up just how paranoid the authorities are about any circulation of information that they're not totally in control of. But the Chinese didn't invent the bloody thing so as to make the rest of the world ill! If I were ethnically Chinese (or rather, Han), I'd resent it intensely.
But then, history if full of crisis periods when demonisation takes place.
No.
The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) fucked up badly by lying and covering it up for 2 months. Millions may die as a result especially in poorer countries.
The CCP happen to be Chinese.
 
You've been conned by the CCP. They shut the whistleblowers up starting in mid December.

I've not been conned by anyone - it wouldn't surprise me if the Chinese government hadn't been completely above board on this but the main point is that ancoats was saying the UK government knew about this at Christmas. Now, do you think that's the case or did we find out later?
 
No, I'm not saying that - that's a different issue. I'm saying how can the British government have known about this at Christmas when the Chinese themselves only informed the WHO on 31st December?

because a alert was sent out to other governments about a virus scare and China shared that sequence
(Chinese efforts to sequence the genetic material of Sars-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. China shared that sequence in early January) so they knew long before they was saying and been working on a vaccine months before or why else would they release info on it blind
 
No. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) fucked up badly by lying and covering it up for 2 months. Millions may die as a result especially in poorer countries. The CCP happen to be Chinese.
Their apparent lack of basic regulatory hygiene standards within livestock markets (and livestock industry more widely) are worthy of comment (and censure) given previous associated warnings and incidents that have arisen.

This pandemic was almost certainly avoidable.
 
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