COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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It's useful to see which mutations have appeared in which countries. The far east have mostly got one set but are now getting some of the western mutations. The UK and US cases cover the lot so you would have to think both got multiple initial cases from all over the globe. Two very culturally divers countries with lots of global connections.
Both the UK and US have major travel hubs. So are importing and exporting new strains of the virus like crazy.
It's going to be interesting to see how the genie can be put back in the lamp.
 
This disgusting shite is often thrown at P.Hitchens, directly to what he says on Twitter.

I’ve read more of Christopher‘s work and he’s definitely the more impressive but what you’ve just said you should be ashamed of.
Not only more impressive but much much less of an absolute ****.
 
"Now, Mr Jani, you say there is correspondence between doctors in Taiwan and Wuhan. Have you seen this correspondence or is it hearsay?"

"Have you got anything contemporaneous to suggest that the Taiwanese Centres for Disease Control knew more than they were putting in official press releases?"

I couldn't be bothered dismembering your argument again hence the brevity. How can "I hope you're never on a jury" possibly be incorrect?

So now I’m not the Jury I’m the Prosecution? Make your mind up.

Taiwan have said they had correspondence from China, they’re not going to say who because those Doctors will disappear, that’s the regime that we’re dealing with in China.

Are you saying Taiwan are lying and you believe China?

Simple question, let’s see if you can answer it.
 
Witnesses is one of the biggest pieces of evidence in any trial. If you can get them.

What you’re essentially doing is believing China over their neighbours in Taiwan and Japan.

Presuming that China for an entire month couldn’t conclude it was passed between humans.

You’re discarding what Taiwan have presented, despite them being proven right.

Taiwan’s Doctors having correspondence with their colleagues in China, with it being communicated by witnesses that it was being passed H2H is evidence, whether you deny it or not.

Well done on responding to my lengthy post with one snide and incorrect line.

China did conclude it too, they said that it was being passed within families a couple of weeks before the WHO officially said about H2H transmission. At that stage, the reason the WHO didn't say it fully earlier was because it was still being determined whether it was localised (as in within a limit of two or three in a transmission chain from the source) or sustained h2h.
 
On the good news front, the place where I work has become a testing station for frontline NHS workers. Been a steady stream the last couple of days.
 
Is there any sense at all in the rationale that this will 'pass' in a matter of weeks? I can see us social distancing for quite some time which of course is shit, but as soon as they open up theme parks and the like again, unless there is a vaccine, surely all it takes is one infected to start the cycle all over again?

Absolutely zero imo. We’re into week three in Spain with cases and deaths still rising and the lockdown just got tougher!

There are still loads of flights going into the uk every day. Still millions working. Still millions exercising and going to some shops on a daily basis. I heard that 25% of nhs staff are now self isolating (happy to be corrected on that one), that figure will rise and rise.

There’s a long, long way to go.
 
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If Iran numbers are correct, than we're up for pretty long peak. They report 120-150 deaths per day for 2-3 weeks.
 
How did the world rid itself of the Spanish flu?

From the sometimes reliable Wikipedia

"One explanation is that doctors became more effective in the prevention and treatment of the pneumonia that developed after the victims had contracted the virus. Another theory holds that the 1918 virus mutated extremely rapidly to a less lethal strain. This is a common occurrence with influenza viruses."

Nobody seems to know.
 
Common knowledge in hazmat circles that a mask without goggles only protects others. The eye socket is a conduit to the sinus mucous membrane and therefore the respiratory tract to the lungs
The virus on door-handles/etc transits to the eye socket when people then touch their face, the aerosol borne virus makes it's own way to the moisture-laden eye balls. Wearing gloves without visor/goggles is only doing half the job. Many people have not been made aware of how eyes are a potential source of infection: that needs addressing asap
Indeed. Wear glasses rather than contact lenses for now.
 
Belgium and Netherlands are pretty bad too. 192 and 175 deaths yesterday and they're not that big countries.
 
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