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I get the same uneasy feeling in this thread that I do in the UEFA FFP Ban thread.
It's hard to believe how somebody as incompetent as Trump, or maybe inadequate is a better word, could be in such a place of high governance. But the fact is he has the backing of the fat cats that are creaming it at the top, just as he himself is.
They are all reaping benefit with their manipulations and insider dealings and breaking it up by trying to do things right just isn't working.

American politics may be the pinnacle of corruption in big business circles, at least currently the most visible with that gobshite treating this national crisis, as his own electoral campaign vehicle every night. But It's not the only exposition of how big industry works, as we see from our own dealings with UEFA at the moment.

It's saddening to see how Western Democracy is going, not just in the US, the UK are adopting a lot of the same techniques. I'm sure other countries are well on the way to following suit regards communicating through twitter, soundbites, mis-information, fake news etc.

But really when a crisis such as this pandemic hits globally, it is frightening to see the wrong man for the job at the helm in America.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
I get the same uneasy feeling in this thread that I do in the UEFA FFP Ban thread.
It's hard to believe how somebody as incompetent as Trump, or maybe inadequate is a better word, could be in such a place of high governance. But the fact is he has the backing of the fat cats that are creaming it at the top, just as he himself is.
They are all reaping benefit with their manipulations and insider dealings and breaking it up by trying to do things right just isn't working.

American politics may be the pinnacle of corruption in big business circles, at least currently the most visible with that gobshite treating this national crisis, as his own electoral campaign vehicle every night. But It's not the only exposition of how big industry works, as we see from our own dealings with UEFA at the moment.

It's saddening to see how Western Democracy is going, not just in the US, the UK are adopting a lot of the same techniques. I'm sure other countries are well on the way to following suit regards communicating through twitter, soundbites, mis-information, fake news etc.

But really when a crisis such as this pandemic hits globally, it is frightening to see the wrong man for the job at the helm in America.
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It truly is depressing to witness the state of democracy at the moment, especially in America. It’s hugely difficult to pinpoint the principal cause, but the diminishment of western hegemony, and the internal frustrations it gives rise to, is probably the main driver.

That a man so palpably poorly equipped for the task in hand even has a prospect of being re-elected is such a powerful indictment of a system that has become broken, a process that has, as you say, been aided and abetted by technology.

Nothing should be taken for granted, including the system itself. The vested interests to which you refer should be mindful of that. Things can unravel very quickly if the circumstances are correct.
 
Pablo1 said:
Seen a couple of documentaries recently about him and his companies.
I mean, Trump doesn’t even bother to hide the fact anymore that every role in government he’s given out has been done on the basis they are mates or family.
Kushner is another dangerous **** who will play his part in the end of the world.
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Doesn't he own one of the PPE production companies?
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Kushner and his relatives have their fingers in many pies. No doubt they have a number of LLC's which may even be eligible for State sanctioned COVID relief funding.

It's just a criminal enterprise dressed up to look legitimate.
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They stopped trying to make it look legitimate a long time ago. They are shameless in their criminal activities and use their control of the DoJ and AG to stop anything being done about it. Their contempt of oversight is because Congress don’t appear to be able to enforce any action to stop it.
 
west didsblue said:
They stopped trying to make it look legitimate a long time ago. They are shameless in their criminal activities and use their control of the DoJ and AG to stop anything being done about it. Their contempt of oversight is because Congress don’t appear to be able to enforce any action to stop it.
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Whatever Congress try and do with oversight, ends up getting stonewalled in the Senate by McConnell and the GOP majority. They've all got their noses in the trough.
 
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
It truly is depressing to witness the state of democracy at the moment, especially in America. It’s hugely difficult to pinpoint the principal cause, but the diminishment of western hegemony, and the internal frustrations it gives rise to, is probably the main driver.

That a man so palpably poorly equipped for the task in hand even has a prospect of being re-elected is such a powerful indictment of a system that has become broken, a process that has, as you say, been aided and abetted by technology.

Nothing should be taken for granted, including the system itself. The vested interests to which you refer should be mindful of that. Things can unravel very quickly if the circumstances are correct.
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Depressing indeed. I'm loathe to even refer to it as democracy.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
I get the same uneasy feeling in this thread that I do in the UEFA FFP Ban thread.
It's hard to believe how somebody as incompetent as Trump, or maybe inadequate is a better word, could be in such a place of high governance. But the fact is he has the backing of the fat cats that are creaming it at the top, just as he himself is.
They are all reaping benefit with their manipulations and insider dealings and breaking it up by trying to do things right just isn't working.

American politics may be the pinnacle of corruption in big business circles, at least currently the most visible with that gobshite treating this national crisis, as his own electoral campaign vehicle every night. But It's not the only exposition of how big industry works, as we see from our own dealings with UEFA at the moment.

It's saddening to see how Western Democracy is going, not just in the US, the UK are adopting a lot of the same techniques. I'm sure other countries are well on the way to following suit regards communicating through twitter, soundbites, mis-information, fake news etc.

But really when a crisis such as this pandemic hits globally, it is frightening to see the wrong man for the job at the helm in America.
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President Xi has got an open goal here to become the grown up on the international stage during this pandemic, I suspect they will be ramping up there international aid efforts considerably as part of their PR initiative. The good thing is though that there will be a ferocious race to be the first to get the anti virals/vaccine gold medal. Some feisty competition in these situations will actually be good for all of us.

I suspect the topic of the origins of the expansion of the pandemic will be ramped up significantly by Trump and co. when the numbers become truly horrific and comparisons of the respective handling of the containments are made by the left leaning press in the states.
 
Vic said:
25 mins. Trump appears and Pence pushes woman (Jo?) even closer to Trump than she wants to be.



Trump's first point is to say you must follow our guidelines...
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Ridiculous isn't it,they must be testing this group of his every day
Who is the one in the red tie,he looks about 15 and about to cry
 
AlgarveBlu said:
President Xi has got an open goal here to become the grown up on the international stage during this pandemic, I suspect they will be ramping up there international aid efforts considerably as part of their PR initiative. The good thing is though that there will be a ferocious race to be the first to get the anti virals/vaccine gold medal. Some feisty competition in these situations will actually be good for all of us.

I suspect the topic of the origins of the expansion of the pandemic will be ramped up significantly by Trump and co. when the numbers become truly horrific and comparisons of the respective handling of the containments are made by the left leaning press in the states.
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He's backed off that a bit the last couple of weeks (since he said he had the phone call with Xi). I agree, I think that will start up again though.
 
meltonblue said:
He's backed off that a bit the last couple of weeks (since he said he had the phone call with Xi). I agree, I think that will start up again though.
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Yes , noticed that at the time and assume it was an agreed temporary cease fire- My money is on Xi just based on his opponent.
 
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