COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Chippy_boy said:
Don't agree with the above at all. Not one bit.

Apparently we need 40-odd million infected for herd immunity. How long would you like to spread those infections over, WITHOUT overloading the NHS? 5 years?

If 40m people get infected, the NHS gets obliterated.
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Part I said not wholly. when lockdown is eased they will hope numbers don’t shoot straight back up, and if that happens it will partly be because of those that have had the virus. We have no idea what that number is. The alternative is lockdown until new cases drop to zero, that just isn’t possible.
How long do you think we can keep this level of lockdown, I think beyond mid May would be a struggle.
 
What's the general consensus on here to a plan B on the antibody tests not being available in the predicted timelines of end of April (I personally think it will be quite a bit later than that for scientific reasons) - It has been the bedrock of all the government messaging which I have personally found confusing as antibody test kits are notoriously difficult to get right. If these tests are still picking up other coronaviruses antibodies in our immune system then that data becomes dangerous in its own right.

1) If there are no antibody tests, how do we get the essential mapping of who has had it and who has probable immunity (who knows for how long)?

2) How do we implement phase 2 without the crucial data we all need from these tests?

3) How do we implement a policy of slowly re-booting the economy with bringing people back to work who have supposed immunity?
 
domalino said:
15 days.
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15 days in terms of total deaths, 13 days in terms of current daily deaths.
18 in terms of total cases, but Italy was doing more testing in comparison. Hospital admissions would give you a better comparison, but these are only published quarterly.
 
Frontline news -

Just spoken to my goddaughter and cousin who works at the QEQM Margate hospital in the ITU unit (only 23) she says staff morale has gone really low after the death of the nurse Mrs O'Rourke (38) yesterday who works there also as she was very popular and they are all sad and really worried. They are running low on ventilators and says it feels like being stuck in a disaster movie. Still hasn't been tested but been advised it will be next week hopefully!! She has PPE but she sent me a photo with her wearing it all and it looks a bit lightweight to me after looking at the gear they are wearing in Naples.

My instinct was to tell her to go home and keep safe but deep down I know that's not right but she's so young to go through this shit :-(
 
AlgarveBlu said:
Frontline news -

Just spoken to my goddaughter and cousin who works at the QEQM Margate hospital in the ITU unit (only 23) she says staff morale has gone really low after the death of the nurse Mrs O'Rourke (38) yesterday who works there also as she was very popular and they are all sad and really worried. They are running low on ventilators and says it feels like being stuck in a disaster movie. Still hasn't been tested but been advised it will be next week hopefully!! She has PPE but she sent me a photo with her wearing it all and it looks a bit lightweight to me after looking at the gear they are wearing in Naples.

My instinct was to tell her to go home and keep safe but deep down I know that's not right but she's so young to go through this shit :-(
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Send her our heartfelt thanks and admiration.
 
Ban-jani said:
@blueish swede How’s it going mate?

What’s the atmosphere in Sweden, where you guys are trying the herd immunity tactic?
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It's fairly sober. It's a different culture from the UK. People are following the rules. There is a lot of stress on personal responsibility. There aren't empty shelves in the supermarkets, for example. You can go out to eat, but not many are - in Stockholm, anyway. They have asked people not to travel from Stockholm at Easter o the disease doesnät spread across the country and most people I know are going to respect that.

They are pumping a lot of money into the economy to help those who have been made redunant or furloughed. In Stockholm, they have just activated the crisis claue for the nurses, which means that they can ask them to work up to 48hrs/week, but the nurses get 220% of their normal pay. SAS have reduced domestic flights to one plane. But loads of cabin crews are being trained to go in and help the health service and social services.

As I said, it's a different culture from the UK.
 
blueish swede said:
It's fairly sober. It's a different culture from the UK. People are following the rules. There is a lot of stress on personal responsibility. There aren't empty shelves in the supermarkets, for example. You can go out to eat, but not many are - in Stockholm, anyway. They have asked people not to travel from Stockholm at Easter o the disease doesnät spread across the country and most people I know are going to respect that.

They are pumping a lot of money into the economy to help those who have been made redunant or furloughed. In Stockholm, they have just activated the crisis claue for the nurses, which means that they can ask them to work up to 48hrs/week, but the nurses get 220% of their normal pay. SAS have reduced domestic flights to one plane. But loads of cabin crews are being trained to go in and help the health service and social services.

As I said, it's a different culture from the UK.
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Fair enough.

The media over here is painting it differently, insinuating not much is being done and you’re different from everyone else. I suppose if citizens are taking it seriously no need for authoritarian measures.

We tried it but no fucker listened.
 
Missed the start of the briefing

Trials on other drugs that might be useful,need more volunteers,over 900 so far,we are involved in international research as well

For now the best thing to keep everyone safe is stay indoors,do NOT go out in the nice weather,people will die if we relax,not a request an instruction

Chief nurse-

Lost 2 front line nurses today RIP

Grateful to all staff and the public,remember the two nurses,stay at home for them

Nightingale hospital was put together by people of all kinds,all back grounds

Onto what everyone is doing,mobility of the public is going down,decline in people moving about

The changes will take time to work,must continue,the number of cases are increasing,hosp admissions are increasing,our curve is the same as many other countries

Clinical trials-

No proven treatment yet,looking at trials for weeks,

3 trials up and running already,looking at different points in the illness

Looking at medicines already in use,eg, HIV and malaria treatments

Next round of trials looking at drugs that are in developement to see if we can use them

Asking for as many volunteers as possible
 
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