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That's exactly what I was going to say but I didn't want to cause offence.
It's emotional blackmail, mate.

No offence taken! We have our own children to look after. My business is going under, she doesn't know if the local authority will provide the SEN funding, going forward, in terms of renewing her contract at the end of each school year.

She earns less than £12k a year and what will we get if one of family succumbs to it, some bullshit about condolences and some faux Facebook bullshit tribute?

My wife did not take the Hippocratic oath and I didn't expect for her job to put her life or her family's at stake.

Those people are a special breed, with their eyes wide open, going in to it. I am proud that my wife wants to help, knowing the person she is.

However, I also can't help feeling guilty she doesn't want to bring more financial hardship on us, as we are not entitled to any government benefits whatsover, nor do I qualify for furlough as a company director of my own business.

It's an open-faced shit sandwich for millions of people out there, buttered both sides, eh!
 
London has the tube which has undoubtedly been a major source of spreading the virus faster because of the overcrowding before and even soon after lockdown.

Lancashire's confirmed cases per million of population is around 80% of the UK-wide figure so yes we will probably peak later than the more intensely infected areas like London.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
Yes, but the midlands seem to be peaking now as London levels off. Not sure why Lancashire should be still 5 or 6 weeks away from a peak.
 
Because every little helps.
These interactions have been included in the models of the spread.

I know it wasn't your intention mate, but forgive me if I don't wish for my family to be factored into a model of anticipated infection.

Especially so, from teaching kids whose parents are getting viral loads by the score.
 
Yes, but the midlands seem to be peaking now as London levels off. Not sure why Lancashire should be still 5 or 6 weeks away from a peak.
Population density is probably another factor, it would be significantly higher in London and the West Midlands than Lancashire.

Edit: 3,235 per sq.km for West Midlands, 487 per sq.km for Lancashire, that's a hell of a difference!
 
One thing really pissing me off in all this is these universitie deciding to publish their plown opinions before theirnis a concensus on whether it is good advice.

UCL have now said closing schools has little effect on the virus spread and is being trumpetted on bbc news.
Imperial college immediately refuted this (not reported btw) and said tge finding didn't take in many factors.

But some will hear this reporting and think fuck it and let their kids go and play out and mingle with their mates even though non of it is proved as plausible fact.

These studies should be going straight to government to be assessed not published to the press and leave us all with conflicting advice.
Good.
Truth should not be hidden.
One doctrine to fight the virus only works if the doctrine is based on facts.
 
No offence taken! We have our own children to look after. My business is going under, she doesn't know if the local authority will provide the SEN funding, going forward, in terms of renewing her contract at the end of each school year.

She earns less than £12k a year and what will we get if one of family succumbs to it, some bullshit about condolences and some faux Facebook bullshit tribute?

My wife did not take the Hippocratic oath and I didn't expect for her job to put her life or her family's at stake.

Those people are a special breed, with their eyes wide open, going in to it. I am proud that my wife wants to help, knowing the person she is.

However, I also can't help feeling guilty she doesn't want to bring more financial hardship on us, as we are not entitled to any government benefits whatsover, nor do I qualify for furlough as a company director of my own business.


It's an open-faced shit sandwich for millions of people out there, buttered both sides, eh!



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Hi Mate
The advice given to most headteachers is to do a rota for staff so that they are not in every day, particularly over the Easter holidays. in fact there was a joint communique from all of the unions telling schools to give all staff two weeks holiday over the lockdown period so they weren’t ‘losing out’ on their Easter holidays.

some schools have only three staff in at a time, someone on the Leadership team and two classroom teachers

Yes mate. she is currently doing Monday and Thursdays - don't know the staff ratio but it is small - 18 kids in total - some from another local school.

I will tell the wife about the communique, as she is in this week during the 'holidays'.

Thanks mate.
 
The fast tests will change everything. US is at 1.9 million and that doesn't include the hundreds of thousands of tests done in their hospital system. I suspect that's partly why the epidemic is crashing in New York. If you look at the data in New York, their epidemic shape is completely different to the UK. Once the testing infrastructure is in place across the US they will be exported across the world.

The challenge are the densely populated areas of the world for whom social distancing is going to be difficult. Consider the problems in cruise ships and in migrant labour camps. It's those conditions at close quarters where virus transmission thrives. UAE very smart in testing their migrant camps.

Keep posting Marv - I never thought you would be the one keeping me sane at present ;)
 
No offence taken! We have our own children to look after. My business is going under, she doesn't know if the local authority will provide the SEN funding, going forward, in terms of renewing her contract at the end of each school year.

She earns less than £12k a year and what will we get if one of family succumbs to it, some bullshit about condolences and some faux Facebook bullshit tribute?

My wife did not take the Hippocratic oath and I didn't expect for her job to put her life or her family's at stake.

Those people are a special breed, with their eyes wide open, going in to it. I am proud that my wife wants to help, knowing the person she is.

However, I also can't help feeling guilty she doesn't want to bring more financial hardship on us, as we are not entitled to any government benefits whatsover, nor do I qualify for furlough as a company director of my own business.

It's an open-faced shit sandwich for millions of people out there, buttered both sides, eh!

I'm a limited company director – do I qualify for any of these schemes?
No official scheme has been announced for directors of limited companies, even if they're just one (wo)man bands, and it looks unlikely one is coming, though many are lobbying for it.

However, we have it rock solid CONFIRMED that self-employed limited company directors, even if they're the only employee, can furlough the PAYE element of their income – ie, get 80% of their salary up
up to £2,500/month. This isn't likely to be huge, as it's likely more of your income is dividends (and there's no help there), but it's something.

If you do this, technically you can't then work for the firm, but you can continue to perform your statutory obligations as directors, eg, official legal filings.

The reason for this is that HMRC find it difficult to separate the dividends you get from your own company from dividends you get from other sources, such as share income. So you're not eligible for the self-employed support scheme, but you will be able to furlough yourself under the employees scheme on your PAYE element
It's also worth remembering that if you furlough yourself, it can be for as short a time period as three weeks. So, if a project's coming up, but not quite yet, you could furlough, then take yourself off furlough and work, and then re-furlough once the project's finished (assuming the furlough scheme is still operational then). We're also checking whether you can work or freelance for others when you're on furlough from your own company. We'll update this guide when we've had confirmation this is allowed.

If furloughing on PAYE leaves you with cash flow issues, check the benefits section below to see if you qualify.
 
Yes, but the midlands seem to be peaking now as London levels off. Not sure why Lancashire should be still 5 or 6 weeks away from a peak.
Birmingham is the 2nd biggest city in the country. Makes sense for it to be closest to London in terms of the spread of the virus. London is the gateway to the country, plus is incredibly densely populated. The virus was always going to spread faster there. It’s like different countries being at different stages, different regions within those countries will be at different stages too. For example in Italy, the north is further along than the south.
 
I fear a similar reaction. She is paid a pittance as it is. She is babysitting, not teaching.

Twat or not, the advice is to keep your family safe by staying at home.

It would appear with plenty of caveats!
I’m in the same situation mate working with sen kids. It’s a real dilemma as you want to protect their best interests but also protect your family. I ‘think’ I had the virus a few weeks back but there’s nothing stopping it getting on my cloths and passing it onto my asthmatic wife and son. Our head teachers advice is if you are worried at all then stay at home and self isolate. It’d be down to the senior leadership to sort out the few kids that are left in. I run a satellite centre as part of our main school and had emails from a few parents saying that a and b we’re coming in because they are bored!!! I sent out a shitty email saying that schools are closed and only to come in if absolutely no other choice. People still don’t get it. If you are worried, and you have every right to be so, say you’ve got a sniffle and are self isolating. She won’t need to go in then. There’s being a hero then there’s putting your families life at risk. Some people have to do this eg nhs workers and they are golden people, but teachers, and poorly paid ones at that, should not be bring needlessly put in this group
 
Looking at the figures it looks like there is quite a big delay in reported deaths/infections.

so when it gets to midweek it’s a more accurate figurE

it’s also pretty difficult to actually analyse the figures as they are all over the place at times. Up and down depending on the country and how they are reported
 
Yes mate. she is currently doing Monday and Thursdays - don't know the staff ratio but it is small - 18 kids in total - some from another local school.

I will tell the wife about the communique, as she is in this week during the 'holidays'.

Thanks mate.
It seems to be quite common to ‘pool’ children and staff rather than have 3 kids here, 2 over there etc.
My daughter works in a large school and they have only 13 children in on average. She is on a rota to be in once per fortnight. Her second day was yesterday her next is in another two weeks. Had them doing some gentle exercise on the field all 4m apart so they could do some PE!
 
Have you not? Have a look in the summer when people wear short sleeves. If they have a scar like a little catterpillar on the top of one arm at the shoulder about 1/4" long - they've had the smallpox vaccine.
Though smallpox did leave a scar so did the tb jab, so most scars you see now will be that, we stopped smallpox jab around 1970 so would only be on mid 50's people and over
 
If you do this, technically you can't then work for the firm, but you can continue to perform your statutory obligations as directors, eg, official legal filings.

This is the important thing for many Directors of small businesses.

If I furlough myself I will have no business whatsoever to come back to.
 
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