Donald Trump

[mancity2012_eamo]

I really thought he’d of been assassinated by now seriously

Trump that is

I know. What’s happened to America.
MAGA

 

[abu13]

The guy really is a cock, regardless of what is view is surely it should not be communicated across twitter.

I feel for the public relations officer for Trump, their arse must collapse everytime an alert sounds on their phone.

 

[Bigga]

Do you still prefer Trump to Biden now that Sanders has endorsed him?

Despite the implication of disliking Biden immensely, I do not like #45, but I can certainly see why any Progressive voter would not support Biden.

And there's a LOT of them.

There's certainly a lot of wriggle room for #45 to operate.

I think it's 50/50 going into Nov, at this point.

 

[Bigga]

1) There’s no statute of limitation on rape.

2) You’ve been unable to find a quote where I said what you thought I said, because I didn’t say it.

3) I stand by what I said in the above. Only a fucking idiot would look back at her comments in support of Biden and her support of his record on women’s issues and believe she made those comments know he’d raped her.

So your post didn’t do too well did it.

So, do you believe her or not?

Simple question.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Despite the implication of disliking Biden immensely, I do not like #45, but I can certainly see why any Progressive voter would not support Biden.

And there's a LOT of them.

There's certainly a lot of wriggle room for #45 to operate.

I think it's 50/50 going into Nov, at this point.

Wait until the second spike hits.

 

[SWP's back]

So, do you believe her or not?

Simple question.

Based on her words of affection towards Biden over the last decade as well as the inaccuracies and issues raised in those three articles, no.

But what I believe is completely irrelevant, if he’s convicted by a jury that sees evidence that I’ve not seen then I’ll trust the process and withdraw any support for him, as I’ve said many times.

It’s you, not me, that takes issue with the rule of law and presumption of innocence.

 

[Bigga]

Wait until the second spike hits.

Yes, quite possibly BUT there's rumour he will head into a different direction over healthcare, so we'll see.

 

[cjn]

Despite the implication of disliking Biden immensely, I do not like #45, but I can certainly see why any Progressive voter would not support Biden.

And there's a LOT of them.

There's certainly a lot of wriggle room for #45 to operate.

I think it's 50/50 going into Nov, at this point.

Any progressive should support Biden, because if Trump gets reelected the Supreme Court is lost for the next 30 years or so, and along with it any chance of significant progressive policy in that timeframe. It's quite simple really.

 

[Bigga]

Based on her words of affection towards Biden over the last decade as well as the inaccuracies and issues raised in those three articles, no.

But what I believe is completely irrelevant, if he’s convicted by a jury that sees evidence that I’ve not seen then I’ll trust the process and withdraw any support for him, as I’ve said many times.

It’s you, not me, that takes issue with the rule of law and presumption of innocence.

Well, that took a lot of foot stamping, hair pulling and crying from you to get an answer on whether you believe her or not.

At least I know.

 

[GornikDaze]

Cuomo will eat him for breakfast.

I quite enjoy watching Cuomo’s press conferences (well there isn’t much else to do!). Thought he came across really well again today, and pretty much told Trump where to shove his tweets in a polite and well controlled manner. I’m sure Trump will take note and reply with his usual tact and decorum

 

[cjn]

Based on her words of affection towards Biden over the last decade as well as the inaccuracies and issues raised in those three articles, no.

But what I believe is completely irrelevant, if he’s convicted by a jury that sees evidence that I’ve not seen then I’ll trust the process and withdraw any support for him, as I’ve said many times.

It’s you, not me, that takes issue with the rule of law and presumption of innocence.

There won't be a jury, the criminal statute of limitations has expired (law was different when this occurred). She acknowledges this:

 

[Bigga]

Any progressive should support Biden, because if Trump gets reelected the Supreme Court is lost for the next 30 years or so, and along with it any chance of significant progressive policy in that timeframe. It's quite simple really.

I get that.

But that's also the stick to beat Progressives with if #45 wins in Nov.

It doesn't matter what any Progressive does at this point.

 

[SWP's back]

There won't be a jury, the criminal statute of limitations has expired (law was different when this occurred). She acknowledges this:

Ah, thought it was Delaware, must have “happened” in Washington.

 

[cjn]

I get that.

But that's also the stick to beat Progressives with if #45 wins in Nov.

It doesn't matter what any Progressive does at this point.

How does it not matter? Progressives, acting solely in their own interest, need to elect Biden or else they won't pass anything of significance for potentially the rest of their lives. It's the only thing that matters.

 

[SWP's back]

How does it not matter? Progressives, acting solely in their own interest, need to elect Biden or else they won't pass anything of significance for potentially the rest of their lives. It's the only thing that matters.

That requires the foresight to see a bigger picture rather than a myopic sense of injustice.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

If I was an American, I would never have voted the man in.

I'm not making myself clear in your eyes because there are crossed wires in our debate here. In no way am I trying to normalize this situation. My political feeling around him would have ensured hed never have got my vote. My feelings about him as a business man, as a president, I thought I had made that bit clear.

Fair enough.

 

[Bigga]

How does it not matter? Progressives, acting solely in their own interest, need to elect Biden or else they won't pass anything of significance for potentially the rest of their lives. It's the only thing that matters.

Well, they were blamed the last time when Clinton lost when, ironically, 1/4 of Clinton voters voted for #45 in the election. I think Progressives know that none of their policy ideas will be taken on board, no matter what happens. There's been no acknowledgement from the leadership that they will let dialogue will happen. NOR will they allow any Progressive into any important part of the staff.

So, I guess it's a case of 'why does it matter then'?

 

[cjn]

Well, they were blamed the last time when Clinton lost when, ironically, 1/4 of Clinton voters voted for #45 in the election. I think Progressives know that none of their policy ideas will be taken on board, no matter what happens. There's been no acknowledgement from the leadership that they will let dialogue will happen. NOR will they allow any Progressive into any important part of the staff.

So, I guess it's a case of 'why does it matter then'?

I just told you why it matters. The federal judiciary, after only four years, is already made up nearly 25% of Trump appointees and the Supreme Court will be lost for the next 30-40 years. This isn't difficult. Even if you feel that Biden isn't a progressive, which I don't care and is besides the point, you need him to get elected.

If Trump gets eight years, AOC could get the next 6 terms afterwards and it wouldn't matter because anything big she passed would get held up in the courts forever.

 

[abu13]

What amazes me is that he stands there while this propaganda video is played and he must know that people opposed to him will be making a similar video of all the negative comments he has made.

 

[The perfect fumble]

How does it not matter? Progressives, acting solely in their own interest, need to elect Biden or else they won't pass anything of significance for potentially the rest of their lives. It's the only thing that matters.

If Biden wins I doubt he'll do anything even vaguely progressive, but that's not the point.

Progressives might have given Clinton the cold shoulder, but having experienced four years of Trump, I suspect the prospect of another four under the orange lunatic, will be sufficient incentive, this time around, for them to hold their nose and vote for Biden.