COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Summerbuzz said:
TBH both figures are debatable. The daily count is lagging, so the long range counts definitely ought to be a more accurate figure for a given time period. If a death certificate mentions COVID 19 as the underlying cause of death, that's pretty definitive. If anything, we're saying even that figure underplays the number of lives lost. I am pretty angry about it, because presenting people with a confused and conflicted range of figures lessens the impact and meaning of them. I don't really know if there's anything in them that says I should be optimistic or not. It clouds the whole issue, which impacts decisions people make around their personal safety, adherence to the restrictions, and the public debate about what happens next.
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In hospital patients it is definative,until yesterday the rule in care homes was the first 4 or 5 got tested,the rest if they show any symptoms they were assumed to have had it,if you have say COPD and your cough gets worse can you really say that is Covid without testing? That is my problem with the care home figures
I agree the issue is clouded
 
Gelsons Dad said:
High Initial value for the 15th!
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Still looking like a peak at 8th, currently plateauing. Hoping we'll start to see a bit of drop off next week.
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
The total quoted does. The dailys don't.
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Petty sure that hasn’t happened-you can see from France totals the big jump when they started adding deaths in the community. I believe Scotland have been adding those-but our tally is from deaths in hospital alone.
 
bert38 said:
Petty sure that hasn’t happened-you can see from France totals the big jump when they started adding deaths in the community. I believe Scotland have been adding those-but our tally is from deaths in hospital alone.
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Think they are added to the dates on the certificate, so not to any one days total.
 
blueparrot said:
Scotland is now both daily figures together which is why they've suddenly increased, not sure about N.Ireland.
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The question is how can scotland include care home figures every day and we can't?

The science select committee meeting is on sky bbc parliament now if you are interested
 
bert38 said:
Petty sure that hasn’t happened-you can see from France totals the big jump when they started adding deaths in the community. I believe Scotland have been adding those-but our tally is from deaths in hospital alone.
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The ONS totals up every Tuesday I believe.
 
karen7 said:
So men and black or ethnic minority are two things we are learning about this virus
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Not sure you can draw conclusions from ethnic background and gender just yet. I would suggest that at this moment in time they are issues of interest that require further analysis rather than saying 'we have learned something'. Ethnic background and gender are not two things that standalone independent of all other key variables.

I would fancy my chances of surving more if I was BME, healthy male and young than I would if I was female, elderly and had an underlying health condition.
 
Deptartment of health for the whole country,including home counties,hospital figures

Up 861 from yesterday

Total 13,729

Tests for yesterday 18,665
 
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karen7 said:
The question is how can scotland include care home figures every day and we can't?

The science select committee meeting is on sky now if you are interested
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Don't know for sure, there may be a lag on the care home ones, but since they caught up are now adding as they come in, so for example there may be 40 from hospials going back a couple of days but the 40 care home ones added are from maybe a couple of days a week ago.
 
Manc in London said:
Not sure you can draw conclusions from ethnic background and gender just yet. I would suggest that at this moment in time they are issues of interest that require further analysis rather than saying 'we have learned something'. Ethnic background and gender are not two things that standalone independent of all other key variables.

I would fancy my chances of surving more if I was BME, healthy male and young than I would if I was female, elderly and had an underlying health condition.
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Yes it is early but it not just us,americans is the same so there is definately more investigation to be done
 
Over here (Switzerland) they've announced the start of loosening the restrictions.

From 27th April things like hairdressers, doctors, dentists, DIY centres and the like. Also tattoo studios, go figure.

11th May the primary schools go back, larger shops can open.

8th June the secondary schools go back, also museums, libraries etc.

Bars, restaurants, fitness centres and the like come later.

https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/bundesrat-zum-lockdown-exit-903929309134
 
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