COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[i8rags]

Not me. I've had COVID-19 thanks. The only way I'll have the vaccine is if the working immunity test for me comes up -ve.
I'll have next years top up though.

You been tested

 

[SebastianBlue]

Not only do I have to isolate I have to shield now what ever that means:( the way the consultant was talking to me before on the phone we’re going no where this side of xmas

I think the sooner we collectively accept that life is not going to be returning to what passed as normal prior to the pandemic any time soon, the easier things will be (and the fewer people will die or otherwise be severely impacted).

We don’t need a repeat of public defiance that substantially worsened the second wave of the 1918 H1N1 pandemic (1919) in many places... though, it is unfortunately looking like that may happen.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Think science might of improved since then

why?

 

[i8rags]

why?

Really, in fact I’m not replying ignore me.

 

[jay_mcfc]

People in Spain are fuming today after the govt have changed their plans on kids leaving the house from Monday. We were supposed to be allowed to go out for a walk with them once per day. Today they’ve said that’s no longer allowed but we can take children to the supermarket or a pharmacy once per week! Absolutely fucking moronic and there’s a serious backlash from frustrated parents. Hopefully they’ll change their minds!

 

[kaz7]

Not only do I have to isolate I have to shield now what ever that means:( the way the consultant was talking to me before on the phone we’re going no where this side of xmas

This is you lovely,no nipping out to the shop for a crate of beer

Staying at home and shielding
You’re strongly advised to stay at home at all times and avoid any face-to-face contact if you’re clinically extremely vulnerable to protect yourself.

This is called ‘shielding’.

Shielding means:

1. Do not leave your house.
2. Do not attend any gatherings. This includes gatherings of friends and families in private spaces, for example, family homes, weddings and religious services.
3. Strictly avoid contact with someone who is displaying symptoms of coronavirus (COVID-19). These symptoms include high temperature and/or new and continuous cough.

The Government is currently advising people to shield until the end of June and is regularly monitoring this position

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ng-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19

 

[SebastianBlue]

People in Spain are fuming today after the govt have changed their plans on kids leaving the house from Monday. We were supposed to be allowed to go out for a walk with them once per day. Today they’ve said that’s no longer allowed but we can take children to the supermarket or a pharmacy once per week! Absolutely fucking moronic and there’s a serious backlash from frustrated parents. Hopefully they’ll change their minds!

Had a message off my cousin about this earlier today that was about 80% expletives.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Really, in fact I’m not replying ignore me.

your dummy’s under the high chair.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Had a message off my cousin about this earlier today that was about 80% expletives.

Understandable! We’re still doing alright but for families in flats this would have been a god send. Any goodwill left from the Spanish public will be gone quickly if they don’t reverse this I reckon.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Not me. I've had COVID-19 thanks. The only way I'll have the vaccine is if the working immunity test for me comes up -ve.
I'll have next years top up though.

How are the kidneys? I seem to recall you were still having an issue, in that department.

 

[Manc in London]

I think the point is this is a brand new virus,we are discovering that has mutated,animal to human was one ,it has since mutated 33 times according to this china expert,we can't compare to anything else as we are just at the start,we assumed immunity but that is now up in the air,we don't yet have a vaccine
As for your two questions,i don't know

Based on what I have read, the spike has not altered, the virus has not changed significantly. You can have many mutations of a virus but a single vaccine may be able to deal with all. Just because it has 33 mutations, it will not need many different vaccines.

 

[grunge]

Think science might of improved since then

it’s one of the main reasons trials are so long!

that longer trial is part of the improved science

 

[SebastianBlue]

Understandable! We’re still doing alright but for families in flats this would have been a god send. Any goodwill left from the Spanish public will be gone quickly if they don’t reverse this I reckon.

My post earlier to @Indaparkside was in general (not about him specifically, just referencing his comment about things not fully opening back up this side of Christmas) informed by the things I am seeing being posted on Twitter, WhatsApp, and many Spanish media outlets. It’s going in the same direction as here — we had protestors at the steps of the state capital yesterday and quite a few “protests” across the US over the weekend.

I have been hearing from family and mates in around Manchester and London that there are rumblings there for the same.

It genuinely worries me, as there is heaps of evidence from the 1918/1919 H1N1 pandemic that these “anti-intervention” movements substantially worsened the second wave in many parts of the globe.

I understand the anger to the recent changes to the public outing rules — that was idiotic. But I do worry these missteps will cause resistance to continued legitimate and necessary restrictions.

 

[jay_mcfc]

My post above to @Indaparkside was in general (not about him specifically, just referencing his comment about things not fully opening back up this side of Christmas) informed by the things I am seeing being posted on Twitter, WhatsApp, and many Spanish media outlets. It’s going in the same direction as here — we had protestors at the steps of the state capital yesterday and quite a few “protests” across the US over the weekend.

I have been hearing from family and mates in around Manchester and London that there are rumblings there for the same.

It genuinely worries me, as there is heaps of evidence from the 1918/1919 H1N1 pandemic that these “anti-intervention” movements substantially worsened the second wave in many parts of the globe.

I understand the anger to the recent changes to the public outing rules — that was idiotic. But I do worry these missteps will cause resistance to continued legitimate and necessary restrictions.

Agreed, governments have to be very careful with what they do and say. Saying this would be allowed the other day then going against it will be catastrophic for the mood of the public. It’s partly why I thought the UK fucked up early doors. They should have locked down quicker and harder and then after 2/3 weeks said people could go exercise. That way people feel like they’re being rewarded rather than being punished. The public here needed something to look forward to especially with the lock down already being extended well into May. They’ve properly fucked this up.

 

[asahartford1]

My post earlier to @Indaparkside was in general (not about him specifically, just referencing his comment about things not fully opening back up this side of Christmas) informed by the things I am seeing being posted on Twitter, WhatsApp, and many Spanish media outlets. It’s going in the same direction as here — we had protestors at the steps of the state capital yesterday and quite a few “protests” across the US over the weekend.

I have been hearing from family and mates in around Manchester and London that there are rumblings there for the same.

It genuinely worries me, as there is heaps of evidence from the 1918/1919 H1N1 pandemic that these “anti-intervention” movements substantially worsened the second wave in many parts of the globe.

I understand the anger to the recent changes to the public outing rules — that was idiotic. But I do worry these missteps will cause resistance to continued legitimate and necessary restrictions.

I have just watched a brilliant documentary about the flu pandemic in the USA 1918/19
I never knew until tonight that it actually started in The States. The politicians also said the same things that they were saying a couple of months ago. 102 years .

 

[i8rags]

your dummy’s under the high chair.

Weirdo

 

[i8rags]

it’s one of the main reasons trials are so long!

that longer trial is part of the improved science

Unless your using existing previously proven

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

People in Spain are fuming today after the govt have changed their plans on kids leaving the house from Monday. We were supposed to be allowed to go out for a walk with them once per day. Today they’ve said that’s no longer allowed but we can take children to the supermarket or a pharmacy once per week! Absolutely fucking moronic and there’s a serious backlash from frustrated parents. Hopefully they’ll change their minds!

I think the main concern for most is any type of piecemeal approach. It'll just create anger and confusion. With a reluctance to follow future stipulated procedures.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Based on what I have read, the spike has not altered, the virus has not changed significantly. You can have many mutations of a virus but a single vaccine may be able to deal with all. Just because it has 33 mutations, it will not need many different vaccines.

That's pretty much what an Oxford vaccine bod said earlier.

 

[kaz7]

Based on what I have read, the spike has not altered, the virus has not changed significantly. You can have many mutations of a virus but a single vaccine may be able to deal with all. Just because it has 33 mutations, it will not need many different vaccines.

Yeah i have seen the guy from Oxford answer this since i posted