COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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karen7 said:
I understand,i have been called negative a few times but i have tried to explain that finding a vaccine,getting through three trial phases then if it is safe it then moves on to the manufactoring and distribution will take a long Time

We have no reliable antibody test yet

We are only now contact tracing

We are going have to live with this for a long time

I think it is good that it has been laid on the line today it is brutal but it was time they trusted us with the truth

Look at it like this,so long as everyone sticks to the rules we will get through it eventually,we are all playing a part in this ,the nhs have not been over run,t hat is the most important thing,we can only control what we do as individuals,so just try and concentrate on that,we have the best minds from all over the world working on this,we will be ok
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some better news there from Roche today - article is scathing of some competitors crap antibody tests to date and how dangerous this has been. Although he may be talking his own share price up ;-) but being Swiss I’m inclined to believe him on developments of their own antibody test ready for roll out.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...on-some-covid-19-antibody-tests-idUSKCN2240JS

Schwan did not release figures for its test’s “specificity”, or how many false-positives can be expected, but promised it would be reliable because Roche had successfully found the antibody produced by the body after exposure to the novel virus.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
OK listen as hard as you can.

The number you saw today is NOT the number who died today.
The day when most people died was the 8th of April. Since then there has been a slow but clear fall.
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I don't think the last two days confirm that stance. Whitty thinks it's levelled off.

Perhaps we either need to try alot harder and stop all non medical food related industries business for four weeks and have a proper lockdown or just abandon the whole thing and go for herd immunity like Sweden?
 
Bovril said:
Did my Hour exercise today on my lunch break from work, busiest I have seen it for Weeks, people are ignoring and don't quite understand the severity of the situation, lets blame the Govt. and not the plebs who continue to flout the rules.
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I agree, we've been really strict , but some of our neighbours are starting to get very relaxed having their dad round at weekends. I know of busineses working in people's homes doing non essential electrical work like moving lights etc. Some just havent taken this seriously. Therefore this will drag out for much longer.
 
AlgarveBlu said:
some better news there from Roche today - article is scathing of some competitors crap antibody tests to date and how dangerous this has been. Although he may be talking his own share price up ;-) but being Swiss I’m inclined to believe him on developments of their own antibody test ready for roll out.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...on-some-covid-19-antibody-tests-idUSKCN2240JS

Schwan did not release figures for its test’s “specificity”, or how many false-positives can be expected, but promised it would be reliable because Roche had successfully found the antibody produced by the body after exposure to the novel virus.
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Thanks,i would like to see the figures they haven't released though,i think because it is such a crucial number for governments to know so we can really move fowards,it is going to have a really high quality test,i really hope it is usable,we really need that test now
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
I don't think the last two days confirm that stance. Whitty thinks it's levelled off.

Perhaps we either need to try alot harder and stop all non medical food related industries business for four weeks and have a proper lockdown or just abandon the whole thing and go for herd immunity like Sweden?
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This graph explains a lot, a SEVEN day rolling total.

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Even when you have it under control people keep dying and the decline in deaths is slow.

Anyone expecting it to fall off a cliff is being ridiculously optimistic.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
I agree, we've been really strict , but some of our neighbours are starting to get very relaxed having their dad round at weekends. I know of busineses working in people's homes doing non essential electrical work like moving lights etc. Some just havent taken this seriously. Therefore this will drag out for much longer.
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Very annoying to say the least, took a rare trip to the shop today and had some idiot stood within a metre of me, when I pointed it out that I didn't want him so close he proceeded to have a go at me, normally if the situation was different I would have enforced lets say the error of his ways but I just let it go and gave him his small victory, I live in a small community, I will probably see him in 2021 can't wait.
 
karen7 said:
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Contract tracing ? Boosting testing,looking at the app that is available,wider trackibg and tracing,that info will help us get key workers back to work,looking for areas that the virus is taking off again...
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But you never tried basic screening at airports and you abandoned contact tracing 6 weeks ago...
 
I have read today that Germany only report covid 19 deaths when the death is directly responsible for the death. We report it even if it isn't and the person could just have it. Anyone know if this is true?
 
I went to take a video of the mass gathering in our town center. For clarity, I was taking my 84 year old mother to her weekly appointment at the eye clinic. She thought the lockdown had been lifted. Anyway, as I was filming a guy of about 60 tapped on my window. Asked me what I was doing so I advised him I was filming it and intended to send it the local TV station who have been continually telling us how well our region is observing the lockdown. At this point he told me to get out of the car and he would give me a good hiding. My mother told him to grow up and if he wasn't doing owt wrong why was he bothered. She then said "give your head a shake, I could probably beat you one on one".
 
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