Deal agreed with Bayern Munich for Leroy Sane - €60m (including add-ons)

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We have no idea, yet you make up half a dozen strawmen arguments to justify your take and that's fine...
I haven't got an argument, I'm not the one judging him (it was a response to a poster who has called Sane "disrespectful" and questioned his ego and work ethic without any sources of evidence other than pure guesswork on which to base those opinions on. I'm simply giving other potential reasons why he may chose to leave, which would make it far from disrespectful or egotistical.
 
Our ‘fans’ make me laugh. We sign a player with no affiliation with the club, he helps us win titles and now when he wants to return home we don’t wish him well. Doolally
Yup. I’ve loved watching him play. There’s still so much more he can do, but I wonder if he’ll ever realize his true potential.
Looks like he’s off which is a real shame . I won’t wish him good luck but I won’t hold a grudge either.
 
Let's remember, Schalke are entitled to ten per cent above our original purchase price of £37m.

Those poor bastards will end up with zero if we do decide to let Sane run down his contract!

They would have been on for about £9m last summer.

£36.99m it is then! ;-)
 
For me, the real pain comes with the personal opinion he is one of those rare players who can make the difference in an instant and certainly for us.

If he could show application on Ronaldo and Bale levels, he'd be a top five player.


He will never reach those levels though, he’s just a pace merchant, hasn’t got a trick or can beat a man with skill and can’t cross or finish, for toffee ,might as well have Usain Bolt on the left.
 
Let's remember, Schalke are entitled to ten per cent above our original purchase price of £37m.

Those poor bastards will end up with zero if we do decide to let Sane run down his contract!

They'd have only given him to Bayern for free themselves, like all the other German fuckwit clubs.

Funny parallel in German football to a previous social era. Nasty, corrupt, bullying red team from Munich get the support of wealthy benefactors and crush the previously democratic and openly competitive championship. To stop any uprising or competition they do deals behind the back of their rivals, getting key people to defect to them and financially crippling their opponents in the process. Then they design rules cementing their position and wage a propaganda war to convince the masses its in their own best interests for their competitive league to be destroyed and to support the big red team in any way possible as they wage war in Europe. The only way to survive is through compliance.

Naturally, the leaders are found to have broken the law but oddly enough the justice system seems to go lightly on them so they retain their authority. Then they are a key instrument in a co-ordinated media campaign against a perceived foreign enemy who the German people must unite against to protect their sacred model, the sacred model corrupted so the big red team can manipulate and dominate.

The big red team use this foreign enemy to suppress and control their domestic environment, and take punitive action against this enemy, taking away their freedoms through punitive financial measures and supporting banning them from competition, you see only the purest, virtuous clubs must be allowed to compete.

Then, a war rages and the teams are forced into camps and isolation. Other teams have players that succumb in this war, but the league must be restarted so the mighty red team can win again, because as long as their pureblood squad is ok then their dominance must continue.

Remind you of anything?
 
£36.99m it is then! ;-)

Ha ha - very good.

Why cut our nose to spite our face, though? An extra £20m would mean Schalke get just £2m of it.

I heard all this with Tevez and making him rot. Cash is king at the moment and we should just wipe our eye and say goodbye.

This is of the player's making, the club have tried their best for two years.
 
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He will never reach those levels though, he’s just a pace merchant, hasn’t got a trick or can beat a man with skill and can’t cross or finish, for toffee ,might as well have Usain Bolt on the left.
He far more than just pace, he’ll reach a top level. I actually think he’ll reach a higher level in the right sort of team than he would in a Pep team. Think he would actually look a better player in liverpools team than in a Pep team, he’s as talented if not more than Salah and Mane.
 
He will never reach those levels though, he’s just a pace merchant, hasn’t got a trick or can beat a man with skill and can’t cross or finish, for toffee ,might as well have Usain Bolt on the left.

I can't agree, his skill is rooted in him being able to retain the ball at such pace. Mahrez has all the skill in the world but Sane's beats you in the blink of an eye.

He can certainly cross and his slide rule to the back stick for Sterling and Sergio was always a vital weapon.

Ronaldo doesn't have Messi-like skill, he has pace and power, a directness to goal, same for Bale.

What he doesn't have is the personal drive of those players, the ability to make their talent even greater through application and desire to listen and succeed.

Sane is already a top player, but Pep knew he could become a great.
 
I can't agree, his skill is rooted in him being able to retain the ball at such pace. Mahrez has all the skill in the world but Sane's beats you in the blink of an eye.

He can certainly cross and his slide rule to the back stick for Sterling and Sergio was always a vital weapon.

Ronaldo doesn't have Messi-like skill, he has pace and power, a directness to goal, same for Bale.

What he doesn't have is the personal drive of those players, the ability to make their talent even greater through application and desire to listen and succeed.

Sane is already a top player, but Pep knew he could become a great.

Just another Buster Phillips for me!!!

rather have RAZ on the left as more affective there for us there, that’s where I think SAne got the hump that raz was first choice on the left. Him Gabby and Mahrez can all switch flanks, Leroy can’t.
 
He far more than just pace, he’ll reach a top level. I actually think he’ll reach a higher level in the right sort of team than he would in a Pep team. Think he would actually look a better player in liverpools team than in a Pep team, he’s as talented if not more than Salah and Mane.
He far more than just pace, he’ll reach a top level. I actually think he’ll reach a higher level in the right sort of team than he would in a Pep team. Think he would actually look a better player in liverpools team than in a Pep team, he’s as talented if not more than Salah and Mane.


Ha ha is he hack more talented then those 2 players. Pep would give his ball sacks to have either of those players at city.
 
Just another Buster Phillips for me!!!

rather have RAZ on the left as more affective there for us there, that’s where I think SAne got the hump that raz was first choice on the left. Him Gabby and Mahrez can all switch flanks, Leroy can’t.
Leroy’s a special talent albeit an inconsistent one and he turns it on in big games. Much as I miss Buster I don’t think he quite had the electric pace or technique to have scored the winner against the dippers and the clincher at Utd last season
 
I can't agree, his skill is rooted in him being able to retain the ball at such pace. Mahrez has all the skill in the world but Sane's beats you in the blink of an eye.

He can certainly cross and his slide rule to the back stick for Sterling and Sergio was always a vital weapon.

Ronaldo doesn't have Messi-like skill, he has pace and power, a directness to goal, same for Bale.

What he doesn't have is the personal drive of those players, the ability to make their talent even greater through application and desire to listen and succeed.

Sane is already a top player, but Pep knew he could become a great.

key word is could, don't think he’ll ever reach his potential because he’s missing the most important thing, mentality. Its something you either have or you don’t.

Sane is a top winger but he’s not the best in the world. He has many games where he’s just invisible. When it’s not going his way, Sane throws his hands in the air and usually gives up.

He hasn’t worked on his weaknesses. His heading and right foot haven’t improved at all. After his great season, Defenders have learned how to play against him, you just force him onto his right foot which is useless.

Sane is a Pogba type, all the potential to be the best in the world but they just don’t have the work ethic and dedication to reach it.
 
Another fucking stupid statement driven by ignorance with no facts. For all you know he might have sick parents, grandparents or other relatives that he would like to spend more time with. He might prefer to bring his kid up in Germany, he might just not like the English lifestyle, he may want to be closer to his friends; we have no idea.

Publicly saying he wants to leave will do one thing and one thing only; reduce our negotiating power. So he's done absolutely the right thing and kept quiet to protect the clubs investment. By not signing a new contract he leaves his options open. As a young man he may change his mind, he may not, who cares, it's his decision. If he plays out the remainder of the season he's done exactly what we signed him to do, play well and win trophies over the 5 year period he signed his original contract to do.

Lots of excuses there for a player that has shown no respect to the club - of course that is all possible. - highly unlikely though. He has seen his arse cause Pep has challenged him and thats clear from what Pep has said in the past about his performances and the way they interact on the sidelines - like isaid i rarely if ever say this about our players when they leave - all do with my good wishes but not Leroy (not that he will care)
 
If we are to loose him this Summer & loose a few quid on him them why not ask for Gnabry in exchange +£

It's bad enough loosing Sane but to have them piss on our chips let's take 1 back off Bayern

I do think Alaba would be a class act in England but Gnabry has turned into a fine player

Leroy will most definitely play down there left could Gnabry be switched over I'm not to sure with Alphonso Davies & Kingsley Conan to keep happy??

Alphonso Davies also looks mint

Unless Pep will use Braff as back up to stop him also moving on to Germany then a replacement winger will cost a few £££££

I would hate to see Foden played out there
 
key word is could, don't think he’ll ever reach his potential because he’s missing the most important thing, mentality. Its something you either have or you don’t.

Sane is a top winger but he’s not the best in the world. He has many games where he’s just invisible. When it’s not going his way, Sane throws his hands in the air and usually gives up.

He hasn’t worked on his weaknesses. His heading and right foot haven’t improved at all. After his great season, Defenders have learned how to play against him, you just force him onto his right foot which is useless.

Sane is a Pogba type, all the potential to be the best in the world but they just don’t have the work ethic and dedication to reach it.
Think that’s about right, not quite dedicated enough to work on his weaknesses. The one I think that is the one that makes him wrong for Pep is the being forced on to his right foot inside and losing possession leaving us open to counter attacks, especially playing with Mendy if Mendy has got forward.
Where Sterling when forced inside usually find a pass and keeps posession.
 
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