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Mainly Gav, it's about how they work in a clinical setting, so you're not gonna fully fix one at home. Just wear it sensibly I guess, and don't think the barrier is fully stopping owt getting in or out.
 
Or maybe just leave them in fresh air/sunlight for 3 days ?
If your just reusing them yourself then sure.
As bacteria from your mouth can live much longer than that then for general purpose reuse it has to be Ozone and/or strong UV light

A UV-c light that generates ozone can do the job at home in 45 mins. I bought my dad an ederson screw in lamp and a UV bulb. Works a treat.
 
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I wonder how many lives have been lost due to the DHSC, PHE and NHS mantra that face masks or cloth face coverings don't work because they don't protect the wearer?
The collected research is now clear, they do work in confined areas where 20% of virus transmissions occur.
The point, as anyone from the far east will tell you is that they stop you passing disease to others and reduce particulate matter deposited on surfaces.
Apparently Boris will change the advice on Sunday to include wearing face masks in confined spaces, alongside current advice of rigorous hand washing and hand sanitization.
Better late than never I guess.
 
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Sorry missed the start of the briefing

No dramatic overnight changes in lockdown

Stick to the rules over the weekend

Powis: 4.649 new cases over last day - but says spread of virus decreasing in the community.

People in UK hospitals with the virus down from 14,346 to 11,788 in last week

Eustice: 31,241 total deaths in all settings - up 626 from yesterday.

Testing still below daily 100,000 target, at 97,029

Eustice: Says day-to-day fluctuations in testing numbers is normal, but important to have "ambitious" targets.

The government has failed to hit its 100k target for several days in a row and plans to up that goal to 200,000.

Powis: 'R number' will vary from place to place and at different times, but vital to keep it below 1 to avoid exponential growth of virus

Eustice: McDonald's drive-ins "made for" social distancing, expects more such fast food businesses to reopen outlets in coming weeks

Powis: Health authorities will start to publish data on people with autism and mental health problems who've died with the virus.

Why are we still sending positive patients into care homes ? We are testing them before they go into care homes,outbreaks from discharges not showing up in data,lots of support for carers on infection control

Public must be 'realistic' over loosening of lockdown

More than a million food parcels delivered


626 is still a huge number,please stick to the rules people

Please stick to the rules - unless you want to celebrate VE day because ¨it means so much to you because you went through it¨.
 
Ha, unfortunately not. Give me a few minutes, I'll try and find the part and post it here.

Here we go - download and start at 35 mins.
https://www.theskepticsguide.org/podcasts/episode-771


Here's the link they give also..
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-gamma-ineffective-sterilizing-n95-masks.html
Don't know what the big deal is about reusing a mask. The virus cannot stand temperatures about 75C for very long, so just stick thing in the oven at say 90C for an hour and everything is dead as disco.
 
Pretty much the entire contents of the old peoples home across the road from me are having a nice sit down and chat outside today for VE day, about 20 of them. Clearly they have "attempted" social distancing by putting the chairs apart from each other, but they are realistically about 2 feet from each other and all leaning in to hear what the person next to them is saying. Luckily there hasn't been any news of care homes being an issue in this pandemic so it should all be fine...
Touchy-freely post of the day :-(
 
14 day quarantine suggested now.
Which is good but rather late.
However this will spell disaster for the aviation and tourism sector, a sector the government is consistently ignoring.
Nobody will booking late summer breaks now.
 
14 day quarantine suggested now.
Which is good but rather late.
However this will spell disaster for the aviation and tourism sector, a sector the government is consistently ignoring.
Nobody will booking late summer breaks now.
So we are now adopting a policy that Singapore, Korea, NZ and others implemented at the beginning.
 
14 day quarantine suggested now.
Which is good but rather late.
However this will spell disaster for the aviation and tourism sector, a sector the government is consistently ignoring.
Nobody will booking late summer breaks now.

Think there may be problems attracting people to harvest as well. We’ll probably see the military picking fruit next...
 
No it is soap that kills the virus,this is why they don't want the public to have them as there are many downsides in the handling ,cleaning and reusing them that makes them not much better than useless
Yet if they were widely available they would be made compulsory in particular situations. Just like they are in one or two other countries.

As many on here have said, intuition tells you that masks - even improvised ones - are significantly better than nothing. I don’t need an expert to tell me that. And if some“expert” says any different, I won’t believe him.

This is about supply, demand and provisioning deficiencies.
 
Correct only in this stupid country
You couldn't make it up
We also probably overestimate the number of people who'd want to visit even with no quarantine. If you are from Australia would you want to leave your relatively safe country to come to the UK.
 
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Siren voices - here's Dr John
"Ten reasons why I believe that it is wrong to continue with lockdown and why we should start to reverse it immediately and rapidly."

1. You cannot understand the significance of this virus simply by looking at the raw death figures

2. The policy response to the virus has been driven by modelling of Covid – not other factors

3. We don’t know if lockdown is working

4. We should ease the lockdown to save lives

5. Lockdown is not sustainable

6. Lockdown directly harms those most likely to be affected by coronavirus

7. Lockdown directly harms those who will be largely unaffected by coronavirus

8. The health service has not been overwhelmed nor likely to be

9. The virus is almost certainly not a constant threat

10. People can be trusted to behave sensibly"

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/ten-reasons-to-end-the-lockdown-now
 
14 day quarantine suggested now.
Which is good but rather late.
However this will spell disaster for the aviation and tourism sector, a sector the government is consistently ignoring.
Nobody will booking late summer breaks now.
Coming in at the end of the month.
Why not today.
And who makes sure people do it ?
 
Siren voices - here's Dr John
"Ten reasons why I believe that it is wrong to continue with lockdown and why we should start to reverse it immediately and rapidly."

1. You cannot understand the significance of this virus simply by looking at the raw death figures

2. The policy response to the virus has been driven by modelling of Covid – not other factors

3. We don’t know if lockdown is working

4. We should ease the lockdown to save lives

5. Lockdown is not sustainable

6. Lockdown directly harms those most likely to be affected by coronavirus

7. Lockdown directly harms those who will be largely unaffected by coronavirus

8. The health service has not been overwhelmed nor likely to be

9. The virus is almost certainly not a constant threat

10. People can be trusted to behave sensibly"

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/ten-reasons-to-end-the-lockdown-now


Unfortunately they have rammed home the message of stay at home or you are going to die for the last few months so trying to now change the messaging and release lockdown is going to be even harder than locking down in the first place.
 
14 day quarantine suggested now.
Which is good but rather late.
However this will spell disaster for the aviation and tourism sector, a sector the government is consistently ignoring.
Nobody will booking late summer breaks now.
Heathrow only started trialing, yes.. TRIALING, temperature checks on passengers a few days ago. Several months late. It’s a shambles. This country is a disgrace.
 
Heathrow only started trialing, yes.. TRIALING, temperature checks on passengers a few days ago. Several months late. It’s a shambles. This country is a disgrace.
not even going to be proper quarentine in that sense, its fly in and go to you destination and stay in for 14 days and there MAY be spot checks, they need to open up local hotels at airports and force quarantine not play at it
 
So we are now adopting a policy that Singapore, Korea, NZ and others implemented at the beginning.
It would appear so. The horse is long gone from the stable now though.
The reason it wasn't done in the beginning?
Our fatalistic flu pandemic plan just didnt consider it as an option due to the sheer volume of travellers passing through Heathrow.
From some of the evidence provided to the Health select committee, I believe that SAGE thought the disease was already well established in the UK due to infectious people returning from skiing holidays in the Itallian Alps and then subsequently from half term holidays in Italy and Spain and his would dwarf any effect from locking the stable door after the horse had bolted. A delay of a week or so was all that was considered possible and it may have simply moved any 2nd spike back into November.
 
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