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The government is transparent as fuck. They want people to go back to work, they want people to go out and buy things and kickstart the economy but they don’t want the responsibility of what that will cause. When the bodies start piling up again in a few weeks it will be ‘we told you to stay alert, stay home’ etc.

I am not sure how transparent a fuck is , but hey analogies .

they don’t just want people to go back to work, they want to try and allow people . Most Tories are rich and probably can survive this for as long as needed.

if you are a double glazing salesmen , a plumber , a spark , own a pub or a cafe , have a small manufacturing business , or garage you want to be able to go back to work so you can earn a living , save your business, feed your family pay your mortgage or rent. You cannot moth ball it forever,

the economy is about people’s lives , it’s not an ideology.
 
Sturgeon says she will continue to say stay at home and then says you can go out twice a day to exercise. Is she a bit bitter that she couldn’t announce it like she has every other time a change is about to appen? Stay alert taken out of context might confuse people but with a full explanation it’s very simple to comprehend. Maybe the slogan should be ‘if your IQ is less than 50 go and speak to someone more intelligent who should be able to explain what’s going on’. Not sure how that would fit on a newspaper headline though which is maybe why we have gone down another route
 
Christ almighty, it’s fucking painful having to catch up on this thread, reading your endless droning.

It’s not fucking rocket science, or brain surgery - the message has to change as we are trying to get some people back to work to kickstart the economy, so it’s “stay home IF YOU CAN”.

The thing I find sad is the very people asking for a plan to exit the lockdown are also the very people who fully understand this new statement .
But they only asked for it to then try to undermine it.
It’s like if they shout enough Boris will fall on his sword and brexit won’t happen
This country is so fucking divided
 
You can tell the people who own businesses in here who can't wait to get people back out on the frontline working for them, while they're work from home... ;)
 
Sturgeon says she will continue to say stay at home and then says you can go out twice a day to exercise. Is she a bit bitter that she couldn’t announce it like she has every other time a change is about to appen? Stay alert taken out of context might confuse people but with a full explanation it’s very simple to comprehend. Maybe the slogan should be ‘if your IQ is less than 50 go and speak to someone more intelligent who should be able to explain what’s going on’. Not sure how that would fit on a newspaper headline though which is maybe why we have gone down another route
She is not playing a game,she is letting people who have to stay at home have a tiny bit more feedom,she is very firm about what to do as are Wales and ireland
 
I am not sure how transparent a fuck is , but hey analogies .

they don’t just want people to go back to work, they want to try and allow people . Most Tories are rich and probably can survive this for as long as needed.

if you are a double glazing salesmen , a plumber , a spark , own a pub or a cafe , have a small manufacturing business , or garage you want to be able to go back to work so you can earn a living , save your business, feed your family pay your mortgage or rent. You cannot moth ball it forever,

the economy is about people’s lives , it’s not an ideology.
Exactly.

True life example, I’ve had one of my customers contact me today, a car servicing & repairs business on the Fylde Coast, who have asked me to take the “we are closed” message off their website from tomorrow morning as they are opening on limited hours.

“Stay home” unfortunately doesn’t cut it for them if they want their business to survive.
 
Do you feel the previous methods to protect the vulnerable worked?

I agree it is time to get things going again but as an older person I have very little confidence that "lessons will be learnt" from the recent happenings.
I protected my vulnerable older people. I don’t see why we can’t.
 
I am not sure how transparent a fuck is , but hey analogies .

they don’t just want people to go back to work, they want to try and allow people . Most Tories are rich and probably can survive this for as long as needed.

if you are a double glazing salesmen , a plumber , a spark , own a pub or a cafe , have a small manufacturing business , or garage you want to be able to go back to work so you can earn a living , save your business, feed your family pay your mortgage or rent. You cannot moth ball it forever,

the economy is about people’s lives , it’s not an ideology.

Yeah we all know that. But we also know the govt won't just come out and say it because they know what the consequences. The biggest thing about the slogan isn't the words it's the colors. It's green for go whilst pretending to be cautious and then falling back on the cautious when the consequences hit.
 
You can tell the people who own businesses in here who can't wait to get people back out on the frontline working for them, while they're work from home... ;)

Bit harsh
I’m sure people do actually care about employees friends and colleagues
Also an awful lot Of people are still working and a lot of self employed people are doing it and I suspect Also looking for the 80% as well
 
I think so many people are doing what they want that the government are trying to manage it now to stop lockdown collapsing
Regardless of political views there are a shit load of dick heads ignoring any advice
 
Yeah we all know that. But we also know the govt won't just come out and say it because they know what the consequences. The biggest thing about the slogan isn't the words it's the colors. It's green for go whilst pretending to be cautious and then falling back on the cautious when the consequences hit.

I don’t wish to have unnecessary argument needless to say the govt have been far from perfect on this and they locked down without a plan of how you unlock , which is the hardest and most difficult part.

. The slogan it’s bit meh for me. I understand it but there Are far more significant things to criticise them on . I await 7pm.
 
Immunity response from asymptomatic individuals is being investigated by PHE.

My cousin is a doctor and early on she contracted it. Her family all got tested and all had it. The adults were ill but the children had it asymptomatically. Her family is now being followed up by PHE with antibody testing (along with others). She has a very strong antibody reaction. She is waiting to see if her children do. PHE are trying to understand the question of whether asymptomatic patients generate immunity. I don't know more than that as the info came through family.

I was quite heartened by this as it demonstrates PHE are on the case and much work is going on which we don't know about.

Rather than have a minister presenting briefing everyday, I'd prefer it if a Dr each day would give us an update on the medical science. That is after all what is going to be decisive. The government is there just to ensure that the scientists get support and to act on their recommendations.
 
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