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Psychedelic Casual said:
I completely agree about common sense. Having worked across a few industries, over the years, dealing with the public in their hundreds every day; it is hugely underestimated how many people have no or little common sense!

Also it’s not always about common sense, it’s about not being exposed to news. I’ve mentioned before, my ex who I broke up with last year didn’t have a TV Licence and only watched Netflix and Prime on her tele through her tablet. She also didn’t have a radio in the house and only listened to Apple Music in her car. So she never watched/listened to any news.

A British-Asian woman was on BBC News the other day saying there are many people in the Asian communities in Britain who only watch Asian tv stations and aren’t exposed to our news. And even if they watched or read BBC News, many don’t speak English.

My Sister has three kids and is still having problems from a miscarriage a few months ago, and is run off her feet at the moment. She’s not up to date with things and is still thinking along the lines of Hancock saying masks don’t do anything because that’s what he said for about five weeks.

Others are busy in other ways, some have been working harder than ever through this, doing longer hours than they were pre-restrictions... they won’t have the time to be keeping up with the news.

Many many people aren’t exposed to what a lot of us are. They do not get the messages.
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I get what you're saying but if you're unwilling to keep up with the news and advice during a pandemic there's no hope for you.
 
Boris Johnson says death tolls in countries around the world are no longer being released by Downing Street because it is "premature" to compare them

"The problem with the prime minister's answer is it's pretty obvious for seven weeks when we weren't the highest number in Europe they were used for comparison purposes, as soon as we hit that unenviable place they've been dropped.

PMQ's

I did say they wouldn't suddenly drop this graph out as they would look stupid after using it from the start,nothing to see here
 
Daily briefing

Total tests 2,094 ,209

Tests yesterday 87,063

Positives 229,705

Patients in hospital 11,327

Deaths in all settings,positive tests 33,1086

Up 494

Level 4 alert level
 
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Daily briefing

Going through the roadmap

Restarting housing market,from today you can move home so long as you keep to social distancing and wash hands and cleaning surfaces ,estate agents ,lettings agents and removal companies etc are now open

Those who are vulnerable and shielding should think carefully about moving,seek medical advice first

Those with covid cannot move now

Construction of houses can restart with social distancing etc

Medical

Transport use ,low level overall

New cases declining

Admissions to hospitals,declining slowly

Critical care patients ,declining

Past the peak,general decline across the whole country

Confirmed covid deaths,downward trend continues

 
Chappie said:
Thanks for the graph please could you get it on by 1430 pm daily ,like the old days
And those colours need changing as they are the patent of Gelson.
Will you be able to do that or will you need another tutorial
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Apologies, was out getting a haircut. I should be good for about 15:00 most days when back from taking the dog for a walk.
 
Questions

Theatre and the arts support whilst not being able to open? Furlough scheme,self employed people have grants available

Family being able to meet up ? One person outside of your household in a public place ,trying to avoid a large gatherings

Media

Care homes,is it right for them to be asked to take covid patients from hospital? Measures being taken etc,testing and PPE ,patients won't be infectious when they move from hospital,trying to keep the movement of patients and staff down,infection control measures,extra training

Not enough tests in care homes,care homes are really worried ,why are you not getting a grip on it? See above,enhanced support from public health

Care homes closing ? Extra money has gone into each councils and help for private homes as well

Teaching staff not wanting to go back? Working with unions to reassure teachers

kids safer at school than at home ? Not just thinking about covid,from educational point of view they are better at school,risk of transmission in kids ? not transmitting it more than adults,lots of risks and benefits

Why no global death rates graph when you were happy to use it before? Lady CMO happy to use the data,it is not being hidden,lots of reasons not to use it now because of differences in recording deaths,testing etc,later on excess deaths adjusted for age will be the true comparisions,about twelve months time

(No answer why they have suddenly dropped it really)

Did you prioritise the nhs over the care homes? The document from march? Did not recognise community transmission

R number increase from relaxing restrictions ? Outdoor freedoms given because it is lower risk out doors,monitor the number,if people keep social distances rules it should be able to stay at one or under
 
SWP's back said:
But surely these people you feel sorry for can have the wherewithal to a) make a decision for themselves to wear one and b) go on YouTube where there are about 100 videos on how to make your own mask.

I don’t understand why people need spoon feeding.
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Correct.

We need some public guidance? The fuck?

Its not difficult to make a mask. There are many videos, and many instructions available.

I don’t understand how some people get out of fucking bed in the morning and manage to tie their shoe laces.
 
twosips said:
Because the government spent weeks telling them there was no scientific proof they worked! Come on man! They probably don't even know that they're now recommended and still think they're useless. This change of tact only came about a few days ago, and it was a relatively off-handed concession. There's been absolutely no push for it at all from leaders.
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Why do you need a push?

If you feel that you need a face mask, whether or not you are told otherwise, then make one.

I don’t understand the need of half of this nation to have their hands held.

We are grown ups. Let’s start acting that way.
 
Proy said:
Why do you need a push?

If you feel that you need a face mask, whether or not you are told otherwise, then make one.

I don’t understand the need of half of this nation to have their hands held.

We are grown ups. Let’s start acting that way.
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I quite obviously know the message and I have a mask. I've been using one for a few weeks. That has literally nothing to do with my post. My point was that quite a lot wont know that they're now recommended due to ongoing piss poor communication from a government that spent weeks telling them they were basically useless. They are doing hardly anything to let people know they have changed their stance.
 
twosips said:
I quite obviously know the message and I have a mask. I've been using one for a few weeks. That has literally nothing to do with my post. My point was that quite a lot wont know that they're now recommended due to ongoing piss poor communication from a government that spent weeks telling them they were basically useless. They are doing hardly anything to let people know they have changed their stance.
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That’s so they can change back and 1) hope no one noticed and 2) if they did notice, deny it
 
Proy said:
Correct.

We need some public guidance? The fuck?

Its not difficult to make a mask. There are many videos, and many instructions available.

I don’t understand how some people get out of fucking bed in the morning and manage to tie their shoe laces.
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Once again, another wilfully missing the point of my post. None of this is about how difficult it is to make a mask, or where to get one. Its about that many simply don't know the importance given the government spent weeks and weeks telling them they were useless. They need to make a big effort to correct that. They're not doing so.
 
karen7 said:
The Prime Minister said there have now been 144 NHS workers and 131 social care workers whose deaths involved Covid-19.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/coronavirus-boris-johnson-admits-275-22020374

This is shocking and makes me very sad

There are also 52 transport workers in London alone

People doing their jobs ,i went out to the local shop today and said to him thank you for working,i said it to the two chemists i use as well and to all the home shopping delivery guys,all of them look taken aback and said thank you that really is appreciated,whilst we were in lockdown those working kept people like me going

I might be a soppy cow but I like to make people feel appreciated for going above and beyond
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I also always make a point of saying thank you to staff I see no matter if they're 'just' queue arrangers without them we'd be proper fucked but the sad thing is when/if this CV stuff is history the public in general will look down on supermarket, transport and to some extent NHS/care staff...they'll certainly not be getting pay rises in-line with bankers.
 
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