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Proy said:
Peer pressure is a very different argument to the educational needs and what they are actually learning.

A lot of school is about your relationships and that may actually be a bigger problem than the academic schooling itself.

Fair play to your daughter for keeping her head down, but remember it starts at home and with the parents so a big up to yourself for properly educating her.

If every parent did that across the board and in normal life, we’d have a much better society and a better future to look forward to for the next generation.
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Cheers pal
 
Didsbury Dave said:
A guy came round to put new windows in for me today after a burglary. His small talk was “back to normal at last, eh?”. Went fishing in the afternoon and there was a group of six teenage girls having a picnic. I went round to pick up a curry tonight and there were 6 chefs cooking together, no social distancing, no masks, nothing.


I reckon the country has abandoned lockdown and there’s going to be a huge spike in cases in the near few weeks.
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I’m probably not in a position to pass judgment here because I’ve been out today, although within the guidelines set.

What I did see whilst out was significant traffic, I’d go so far as to say like a normal Friday. They could all have been doing what I was, ie driving to a walking destination, but I doubt it with the volume that existed.

I think the biggest concern is that families are now reconnecting. Whilst out, there were large groups of people, car loads meeting up etc for the trail.

That will also convert into household meetings, I’m certain of that.

Like I’ve said all week though, that is by design in my opinion.
 
Indaparkside said:
Your up late
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Since covid and not being able to breathe in the night and having to go up to hosp twice in the first few nights because of it I have developed a worry going to bed till it gets light,it is anxiety thing,until I stop getting a bit breathless on exertion then I'm scared to sleep in the night, probably just need a slap to get me out of it
Form a queue lol

Ric first :)
 
karen7 said:
Since covid and not being able to breathe in the night and having to go up to hosp twice in the first few nights because of it I have developed a worry going to bed till it gets light,it is anxiety thing,until I stop getting a bit breathless on exertion then I'm scared to sleep in the night, probably just need a slap to get me out of it
Form a queue lol

Ric first :)
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For very different reasons, I’m doing exactly the same thing.

Im averaging about 4 hours sleep, getting up eating breakfast, then knocking out 20k on the exercise bike. Few weights, lunch and then a 6 mile walk. Rinse and repeat.

Strangely, I feel like a million fucking dollars.

I miss working but in some ways this lock down has been a blessing.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
You do know that teachers have to plan lessons and mark work, don’t you? It’s not a 9:30-3:30 job. That’s their lesson time. Even milk time has been taken from them.
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Like I said in the message you have quoted, it’s not a debate for this thread.

I have my point of view on it. Best to just leave it there.
 
Proy said:
Salary. Working time.

The usual suspects, but that’s not a debate for this thread.
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not starting an argument, but have a read up on a teachers working life and see if it changes your mind.

there is a lot more too it than most people think.

https://www.weareteachers.com/teacher-overtime/

and then you have the fact they have to deal with kids every day!! Wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy.
 
Proy said:
For very different reasons, I’m doing exactly the same thing.

Im averaging about 4 hours sleep, getting up eating breakfast, then knocking out 20k on the exercise bike. Few weights, lunch and then a 6 mile walk. Rinse and repeat.

Strangely, I feel like a million fucking dollars.

I miss working but in some ways this lock down has been a blessing.
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Sounds like it is doing you the world of good,you might not want to go back to work ,it will be interesting to see what the country is like after this,more retire early,more work from home,movement in and out of the nhs,patients and staff,more self employed,kids still going to uni or taking off travelling more,our use of transport,hope I am still here to see what sticks,i hope we are are a nicer world and I include nicer to nature and climate change
 
karen7 said:
Found the study you mention

Daily reported cases peaked at the beginning of April 2020 and hospital deaths a week later in England. By the second half of April, based on extrapolating the variation in infection rate between local authorities with more or less cases reported depending on location, over 25% in the UK population could already have had the virus, the team have found.

Dr Adrian Heald from The University of Manchester, one of the researchers, said: “COVID-19 is a highly infectious condition and very dangerous for a small group of people. However a much larger group seem to have low or no symptoms and have been unreported.,“This study tries to provide an estimate of the number of historic infections

https://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/over-25-of-the-uk-likely-to-have-had-covid-19-already/

At a quick glance they seem have added in all who have no symptoms and even though we are not finding many of them because we have only tested people with symptoms and we stopped mid March and haven't long got going again properly,the antibody test is the one to find out who has had it without symptoms along with the few we have found already
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Thanks, but until we're all tested its just bollocks imho.

I have had "mild symptoms" about 5 times since February, and have some now in fact, but I very much doubt I've had it or have it, and I will continue my own precautions not to get it.

However the mirror article encourages people to think they have had it, and therefore think they're immune, it was an irresponsible headline in my opinion, not that it surprises me.
 
Manc in London said:
I genuinely believe the majority of heads and school teachers would like to open the schools if they were fully informed and felt confident they could minimise risk to a very low level.

I strongly believe in the usefulness and need for unions, bar the obvious number of awkward shop stewards and reps (I have come across a few). Admittedly, the unions may not appear easy to negotiate with. However, the Govt/DfE should have foreseen this and started dialogue with them and the relevant schools organisations earlier.
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My son in law is a school head. The government and local authorities have been duscussing the issues with primary heads for 4 weeks. FOUR weeks.
(Note: Not every school but a very large subset - a few in each authority. it is up to local authorities if this information is shared with other schools.)
 
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kevin horlocks wand said:
things are moving quickly and slowly at the moment ( well it feels that way to me ) schools opening is 1 June which is two weeks away and things are moving the right way infection wise , who knows in two weeks hopefully parents and teachers will have more confidence to a slow return
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yep. Goverment should have said we’ll review the 1st June, if infection rate is safe enough then prepare for around mid June.
 
cleavers said:
Thanks, but until we're all tested its just bollocks imho.

I have had "mild symptoms" about 5 times since February, and have some now in fact, but I very much doubt I've had it or have it, and I will continue my own precautions not to get it.

However the mirror article encourages people to think they have had it, and therefore think they're immune, it was an irresponsible headline in my opinion, not that it surprises me.
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You don't have to tell me that,i have a real stake in the immunity question,i am forever having to tell people to slow down on that because of studies like the Manchester one,until WHO ,our CMO ,those making our vaccine or a big centre in america come up with one that they all agree on then it is not certain and they all say it takes time,months and years of re-testing to know for sure

Call 111 and see what they say,you are not over 65 are you? (Runs away) you can get one then

Stay safe
 
I've seen on Sky News reports of intended anti lockdown rallies planned for this weekend. Am I being a snowflake thinking that these are unbelievably irresponsible? I don't feel one bit that the lockdown was an infringement on my human rights. It was imposed to stop the spread of a deadly virus with no known cure that has taken the lives of over 30,000 people in just over 2 months. I'd rather be at home,safe and sound knowing that come Christmas 2020 I can have my Christmas dinner with all my family there intact and healthy. On VE night last week I could hear a party with karaoke going on! What better way to spread a deadly virus than to drunkedly sing and spit on a mic then hand it around to others. We are nowhere near out of the woods yet with this. Instead of having their anti lockdown protest I suggest they spend 12 hours in an ICU with the NHS staff there and see what they think after. The lockdown is to try and minimise the number of fatalities and to protect the already overstretched health service. Anti lockdown my arse.
 
Oh YeahOh Yeah said:
I've seen on Sky News reports of intended anti lockdown rallies planned for this weekend. Am I being a snowflake thinking that these are unbelievably irresponsible? I don't feel one bit that the lockdown was an infringement on my human rights. It was imposed to stop the spread of a deadly virus with no known cure that has taken the lives of over 30,000 people in just over 2 months. I'd rather be at home,safe and sound knowing that come Christmas 2020 I can have my Christmas dinner with all my family there intact and healthy. On VE night last week I could hear a party with karaoke going on! What better way to spread a deadly virus than to drunkedly sing and spit on a mic then hand it around to others. We are nowhere near out of the woods yet with this. Instead of having their anti lockdown protest I suggest they spend 12 hours in an ICU with the NHS staff there and see what they think after. The lockdown is to try and minimise the number of fatalities and to protect the already overstretched health service. Anti lockdown my arse.
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Those idiots don't understand that this is not about keeping them safe it about every one of us keeping each other safe,it is a collective effort ,honestly we are being asked to stay in our nice house with food ,beer,loads to watch on the telly or devices and you can talk to anyone face to face in the whole world,it is not a fucking cell
If they want to take there chances getting a deadly virus that might kill them to drop them on a deserted island and let them get on with it
 
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