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It does beggar belief. Does it really mean that London is Covid free. Are the numbers true? Its not even the weekend when you might expect small numbers. Will be interesting to see what the next few days brings.

I don't know how they define London but Barnet has not had a day with zero hospital admissions. Admittedly, only 2 or 3 a day for the past week or so. The hospital serves Barnet and West Enfield, so serves around 450k
 
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They’ve been declining here in Scotland the last 2-3 weeks. Just 113 new cases today and 21 deaths. Two weeks ago midweek daily figures were about 300 cases 70/80 deaths. ICU now at 50 from 200 and hospital about 1300 from around 2000.
I don't doubt they are declining.
My observation is that the overall cases per million population throughout the epidemic is higher in many Scotish regions e.g. Greater Glasgow and Clyde (3.268k) than Brent (2.548k) the original Coronavirus hotspot and home of Wembley.
Now, I admit that we're doing a hell of a lot more testing now than we used to do, but with the lock down, cases in Brent dried up at a quicker rate than further north and the dry up rate seems to have swept north sort of following the average temperate going above 13 degrees. Corolation I know but interesting nonetheless.
This may mean a return of the virus at the end of October. Going , north to south this time.
 
Everything's OK now the south have it under control. That's the way this country works, all the money is spent on London & the South East, they do let us work hard, earning money for the southern investors though, so it's OK.
Yeah it does feel that all the attention has been on london,understandably though but still trying to force schools open every where and not on a regional basis didn't seem right
 
Malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, which U.S. President Donald Trump says he has been taking, is tied to increased risk of death in COVID-19 patients, according to a study published in medical journal Lancet.
The study, which observed over 96,000 people hospitalized with COVID-19, showed that people treated with the drug, or the closely related drug chloroquine, had higher risk of death when compared to those who had not been given the medicine
 
I don't doubt they are declining.
My observation is that the overall cases per million population throughout the epidemic is higher in many Scotish regions e.g. Greater Glasgow and Clyde (3.268k) than Brent (2.548k) the original Coronavirus hotspot and home of Wembley.
Now, I admit that we're doing a hell of a lot more testing now than we used to do, but with the lock down, cases in Brent dried up at a quicker rate than further north and the dry up rate seems to have swept north sort of following the average temperate going above 13 degrees. Corolation I know but interesting nonetheless.
This may mean a return of the virus at the end of October. Going , north to south this time.
One things for sure, it won’t be anything to do saint Nicola.
 
Malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, which U.S. President Donald Trump says he has been taking, is tied to increased risk of death in COVID-19 patients, according to a study published in medical journal Lancet.
The study, which observed over 96,000 people hospitalized with COVID-19, showed that people treated with the drug, or the closely related drug chloroquine, had higher risk of death when compared to those who had not been given the medicine
Hopefully no one tells donald.
 
Is there anyone that can explain this:

"There is a time lag in the data though, with the R number released today relating to what was happening two to three weeks ago."

I understand they say you can have symptoms anywhere up to 14 days, but the number for most people is generally less. How can you make a decision for the now when your data is not current? The R number could fucking be anything right now..
 
Is there anyone that can explain this:

"There is a time lag in the data though, with the R number released today relating to what was happening two to three weeks ago."

I understand they say you can have symptoms anywhere up to 14 days, but the number for most people is generally less. How can you make a decision for the now when your data is not current? The R number could fucking be anything right now..
The alternative is shut the country down including eventually nhs.
 
The alternative is shut the country down including eventually nhs.
I'm not talking about that, i'm saying what is the point of discussing data that is not current in relation to making decisions for right now? We are over 2 months into this now, there is AI and data manipulation software out there than can speed things up, so what is the reason for the time lag? There must be a legitimate reason.
 
I don't doubt they are declining.
My observation is that the overall cases per million population throughout the epidemic is higher in many Scotish regions e.g. Greater Glasgow and Clyde (3.268k) than Brent (2.548k) the original Coronavirus hotspot and home of Wembley.
Now, I admit that we're doing a hell of a lot more testing now than we used to do, but with the lock down, cases in Brent dried up at a quicker rate than further north and the dry up rate seems to have swept north sort of following the average temperate going above 13 degrees. Corolation I know but interesting nonetheless.
This may mean a return of the virus at the end of October. Going , north to south this time.

I don't know if it can be temperature related. Surely if so then countries like Iran and Turkey where its always been above these temperatures then the virus would never have taken off in the first place?
 
Don't think those Countries are particularly hot in March- April.?

Certainly nowhere near their summer levels but still hot enough in comparison to the UK I'd have thought. They're saying that Latin America is believed to be the epicentre just now and its 28degrees in rio and 34 in La Paz.

Might be something to it and might not, just playing devil's advocate to an extent.
 
I don't know if it can be temperature related. Surely if so then countries like Iran and Turkey where its always been above these temperatures then the virus would never have taken off in the first place?
The virus clearly doesnt depend on temperature to spread but there is clearly an effect in the nothern hemisphere where the rate of spread becomes optimal above 3 degrees and below 13 degrees. There is a lot of research being done on this at the moment and it looks to be a combination of temperature and humidity.
BTW Iran is 11 degrees centigrade in February and only gets above 13 degrees at the start of March.
 
I don't know if it can be temperature related. Surely if so then countries like Iran and Turkey where its always been above these temperatures then the virus would never have taken off in the first place?
Bearing in mind covid is not behaving like the other corona viruses in some ways,nobody really know yet but you find differing opinions based on other viruses behaviour,it will continue spreading in summer because we have no immunity,slower than in winter but it won't be disappearing and a second wave in winter is expected by most

For the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, we have reason to expect that like other betacoronaviruses, it may transmit somewhat more efficiently in winter than summer, though we don’t know the mechanism(s) responsible. The size of the change is expected to be modest, and not enough to stop transmission on its own

https://ccdd.hsph.harvard.edu/will-covid-19-go-away-on-its-own-in-warmer-weather/
 
And to think 7 weeks ago I said that it was estimated we would have 66k by end of May & a lot of bluemooners mocked me. One even suggested i was a member of the flat earth society

Well there's 27k in England and we are over 2/3 of the way through May averaging around 350 a day. At that rate you were closer to there being no deaths than your prediction.
 
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