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I thought when either teflon dom or his wife, whoever showed symptoms first, then that person should have been isolated in one room so other members of household didnt contract it. Then the non symptom parent could look after the child, so why were both the symptomatic parent and non symptomatic parent both in close contact in a car for x5 hours. The child care issue would only become more critical if both parents were to be incapacitated. So therefore its not responsible to be in close contact, as its more likely to incapacitate both parents. The government state that high majority of infected people will only display mild symptoms so therefore its more likely that at least x1 parent if not both would only have mild symptoms and be likely to order groceries online if needed, thats if they cannot telephone a local extended family member or friend to drop off to the home with social distancing......
 
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Spectacular misunderstanding about how the virus spreads.
So you'd know that the risks of both parents (young, no underlying health problems) being "incapacitated" were remote. They're saying they self-isolated in an outhouse at his parents' home - but if they had become incapacitated, who there was supposed to care for them and their infant? The vulnerable aged parents...

(And what about parents in a small flat with no second home or no car to go anywhere else?)

Actually, the worst may be that he was frit.
 
All of you who stayed home, who didn’t break the lockdown, who didn’t see your parents, kids or loved ones, those of you who didn’t attend funerals, you just didn’t love your family enough. Unlike cummings, who “acted responsibly, legally & with integrity”.
The problem is you seek to hold Cummings to account on the basis of his position of high office which he actually doesn't hold. The real issue is that we have unelected people inserted into positions of high influence rather than high office. Apart from the fact that people want to hang himout to dry because he's a ****, he has no more moral obligation to the lockdown than any of the other idiots we've all seen doing daft / selfish things in the last few weeks.
 
Please enlighten me,why were we told to stay home if moving about didn't spread it

Disappointing for two posters with a personal axe to grind using a pandemic to do it,grow up

Do you reckon a four year old does a 260 mile car trip twice without needing a break?
I’m not sticking up for dom, horrible little man by all accounts. What annoys me is the lack of nuanced thinking by certain prolific posters. It’s not a black and white issue. Lockdown is just a trite phrase - it doesn’t mean what it says. Like I keep saying to you - going to the shops and encountering possibly dozens of people indoors increases the chances of spreading / contracting the virus far more than banging a hooker or dropping a kid off with his grandparents or going to a second home does.
It’s wrong for those in charge or in positions of influence not to practise what they preach but their actions don’t necessarily contribute to the virus spreading any faster than if they’d all just popped to Asda.

You seem like a class warrior to me, jealous of the rich and powerful.
 
Ooh - official UK civil service tweet

"Arrogant and offensive"..."these truth twisters".

Taken down already. The only inquiry will be into who posted that.
 
The problem is you seek to hold Cummings to account on the basis of his position of high office which he actually doesn't hold. The real issue is that we have unelected people inserted into positions of high influence rather than high office. Apart from the fact that people want to hang himout to dry because he's a ****, he has no more moral obligation to the lockdown than any of the other idiots we've all seen doing daft / selfish things in the last few weeks.
So the man in high office who picked him has no moral obligation either?
 
BBC analysing his answers to Ian Watson's questions.

"He did what he did to stop the spread of the virus." How did going to Durham stop the spread of the virus? It's nonsense.
 
going to the shops and encountering possibly dozens of people indoors increases the chances of spreading / contracting the virus far more than banging a hooker or dropping a kid off with his grandparents or going to a second home does..


You mean those very same grandparents we were told to stay away from because they were more vulnerable to the virus? I wonder how much bigger the risk is to those grandparents after said child has been in a car with a COVID carrier for 5+ hours...
 
The problem is you seek to hold Cummings to account on the basis of his position of high office which he actually doesn't hold. The real issue is that we have unelected people inserted into positions of high influence rather than high office. Apart from the fact that people want to hang himout to dry because he's a ****, he has no more moral obligation to the lockdown than any of the other idiots we've all seen doing daft / selfish things in the last few weeks.

I hold him to account because that office that he does not hold pays him a handsome £100,000 annually to stand by his post and do his god damn duty for the nation. Just saying like : /
 
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Was a waste of time, and everyone there should be ashamed of themselves. These briefings could be so much more.

that’s what’s annoying me. The media absolutely abhor Cummings and have ruined the pressers for the last 3 or 4 days making it about him.

he should have just said he was driving up to Durham to go to his favourite chippy...
 
You mean those very same grandparents we were told to stay away from because they were more vulnerable to the virus? I wonder how much bigger the risk is to those grandparents after said child has been in a car with a COVID carrier for 5+ hours...
Exactly - you wonder. We all wonder because we don’t know how likely it is to be transmitted from one person to the next. One study referenced in the Sunday times today suggests that 80% of people who have it don’t pass it on. Maybe the grandparents here are quite happy to help out, my old man has been so who are we to judge the actions of an individual family
 
I hold him to account because that office that he does not hold pays him a handsome £100,000 annually to stand by his post and do his god damn duty for the nation. Just saying like : /
I share your concern about an unelected 100k pa position being created out of thin air. as @Vic said maybe his elected boss should be held to account, but I doubt it will happen. No PM / Govt is going to fall because some one drove up the A1 unless they were pissed and killed someone, met a Russian spy, or some other profumo level act.
 
I’m not sticking up for dom, horrible little man by all accounts. What annoys me is the lack of nuanced thinking by certain prolific posters. It’s not a black and white issue. Lockdown is just a trite phrase - it doesn’t mean what it says. Like I keep saying to you - going to the shops and encountering possibly dozens of people indoors increases the chances of spreading / contracting the virus far more than banging a hooker or dropping a kid off with his grandparents or going to a second home does.
It’s wrong for those in charge or in positions of influence not to practise what they preach but their actions don’t necessarily contribute to the virus spreading any faster than if they’d all just popped to Asda.

You seem like a class warrior to me, jealous of the rich and powerful.
Where to start

The last bit is totally bollocks,i have been poor and I have been very comfortable,,i am not a jealous person of anyone,i would not like to be rich or powerful,seems too much hassle to me,i am a warrior for sick and disabled people and animal welfare,i am very passionate about covid because I have had it badly and I feel lucky to have beaten it

We were told stay at home,so we stayed at home to be safe and protect the nhs,we were told not to travel to second homes or break lockdown,the CMO in Scotland got fired as did ferguson,cummings has no excuse ,using the child is reprehensible ,they both had covid,they should have stayed at home,the advice was very very clear

Going to a shop and doing social distancing is the same as having sex with two people ? When we were told we could not see relatives from a different household? Come on mate,also we were expressly told to not take the kids to the granparents

If the public has been told they could travel that far to ensure childcare then we would have,we were told in march/april not to leave our houses except for food,medicines and essential workers

I am sorry but can't see your point here

I need a lie down
 
Exactly - you wonder. We all wonder because we don’t know how likely it is to be transmitted from one person to the next. One study referenced in the Sunday times today suggests that 80% of people who have it don’t pass it on. Maybe the grandparents here are quite happy to help out, my old man has been so who are we to judge the actions of an individual family

So more confusing "evidence" as per my posts yesterday.

Also re them being "happy to help" - great, good for them, happy to help and get the virus....the point was to help the NHS not be overwhelmed, exposing yourself does not do that, but these holier-than-thou wankers are above us all so can do wtf they want.
 
Exactly - you wonder. We all wonder because we don’t know how likely it is to be transmitted from one person to the next. One study referenced in the Sunday times today suggests that 80% of people who have it don’t pass it on. Maybe the grandparents here are quite happy to help out, my old man has been so who are we to judge the actions of an individual family

Responsible grandparents would have told him to stay where he was and self isolate, two parents should be able to care for a four year old. Only if they where both seriously ill and needing hospital treatment should they have requested help from the nhs. The advice was stay at home. The advice was self isolate, not have a wander round Barnard Castle.
 
Exactly - you wonder. We all wonder because we don’t know how likely it is to be transmitted from one person to the next. One study referenced in the Sunday times today suggests that 80% of people who have it don’t pass it on. Maybe the grandparents here are quite happy to help out, my old man has been so who are we to judge the actions of an individual family
They know better than every single scientist in the world? It is a virus,it jumps from person to person,i don't think you have a clue even after three months solid,this killing older people,hence the keeping the kids away from old people

People can catch COVID-19 from others who have the virus. The disease spreads primarily from person to person through small droplets from the nose or mouth, which are expelled when a person with COVID-19 coughs, sneezes, or speaks. These droplets are relatively heavy, do not travel far and quickly sink to the ground. People can catch COVID-19 if they breathe in these droplets from a person infected with the virus. This is why it is important to stay at least 1 meter) away from others. These droplets can land on objects and surfaces around the person such as tables, doorknobs and handrails. People can become infected by touching these objects or surfaces, then touching their eyes, nose or mouth. This is why it is important to wash your hands regularly with soap and water or clean with alcohol-

https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...-and-answers-hub/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses
 
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