COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[twosips]

You think the scrotes though even know who Cummings is or even take any personal responsibility for their own actions?

For the past month I have seen hundreds of people taking the piss in my own locality, those people will take the piss regardless.

People who are responsible will continue to be responsible. Sadly, there are enough ignorant chunks of the populous who only care about themselves.

If more people let some weirdo like Cummings inform their decision, they were probably already looking for a get out of jail free card anyhow.

The scrotes won't care and never did, but there will be a lot of stupid, very easily lead, but not necessarily *bad* people, that largely may have stuck to the rules while occasionally pushing the spirit of the boundaries a bit, that will now undoubtedly push the boundaries more. That is DEFINITELY going to happen.

You can call them idiots etc, and say how much you will stick to it, and likewise I will, but that doesn't change a thing. These shifts in mentality affect all of us potentially, and that's why its important. There has been a notable shift in the public mood - literally everyone can see it. It's been on the front page of every paper for days now and all over the TV and radio. Everyone knows about it, even some idiots. I do think some people who were taking the piss only a tiny bit, will now take the piss more, and the knock-on effects will effect every single one of us. This is why it matters.

I don't think it was ever as simple as half of the country go against the rules, half stick to the rules. There will be loads that follow themto the letter 90% of the time. Now it's maybe 80%, cos 'fuck it, why not, they think we're idiots and Cummings felt safe enough'. Yes, they're stupid, but its happening and it now affects me and you, whether we follow the rules or not.

 

[johnnytapia]

It is
It was 2500 per day a week a go
3250 a day the week before that,
4000 the week before that.

Ta bud; need to get me head a bit more around that data I posted.

 

[Tb1981]

We're literally still arguing now about under what circumstances people had to stay at home and that's because the guidelines were badly drafted.

And I think it's totally understandable that some people might not have realised how serious it was given the PM basically said "don't go to the pub. But the pubs can stay open"

And then "actually the pubs will close, but everyone can have one massive last night out at the pub"

Totally understandable my arse
Your making excuses for people so that you can blame Boris

 

[Mon Autre]

Totally understandable my arse
Your making excuses for people so that you can blame Boris

Ok, sure if you think keeping pubs open whilst simultaneously telling people they shouldn't go them was a clear message then fine. You seem desperate to blame anyone but the government. Which is exactly what they'd like you to do. Enjoy guzzling on that kool-aid.

 

[Tb1981]

Ok, sure if you think keeping pubs open whilst simultaneously telling people they shouldn't go them was a clear message then fine. You seem desperate to blame anyone but the government. Which is exactly what they'd like you to do. Enjoy guzzling on that kool-aid.

But they did close pubs, maybe late but they did
They closed restaurants
They told people to stay at home
And loads ignored it
I won’t blame the government that three doors down from me are ignoring the rules
I blame them selfish idiots

 

[johnnytapia]

UK has highest death rate per capita. FT. Free to read.

https://www.ft.com/content/6b4c784e-c259-4ca4-9a82-648ffde71bf0

World-beating

 

[johnnytapia]

Is there any evidence that countries with ID cards suffer less fraud/ID theft than those without?

There is zero theft in North Korea.

 

[Gabriel]

I won’t blame the government that three doors down from me are ignoring the rules
I blame them selfish idiots

That sentence actually reads as if you are living in Downing Street, which, if true, then I tend to agree. ;-)

 

[oman0115]

Are you old or infirm?

Id be fucking delighted to be brought off furlough. i'd catch the fucking virus if i had to and I'm pre-diabetic.

neither mate, but I’m productive working at home and been instructed to by the management board, it’s just my manager. I don’t fancy 2+ hours on a train though when there’s other enployees who live 5 mins from the office

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Not unless in same household at the moment although the bubble may be extended to include people from outside your household this evening.

Not much use.
The kids aren’t in school...

 

[ganganvince]

Not much use.
The kids aren’t in school...

Depends if parents are key workers

 

[denislawsbackheel]

But they did close pubs, maybe late but they did
They closed restaurants
They told people to stay at home
And loads ignored it
I won’t blame the government that three doors down from me are ignoring the rules
I blame them selfish idiots

It’s those FFS, not them.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Depends if parents are key workers

Whoooosh...

 

[Tb1981]

It’s those FFS, not them.

You wasted as much time replying as I just did

 

[Nellies left peg]

This is the same line of thinking people were peddling weeks ago when we arguing about the guidance not being clear enough "oh well I understand it so those who don't are thick." Ironically we're still arguing about it now given our government has performed a massive u turn on everything it told us all along.

Now it's, "well if people change their habits now they were going to anyway and they're selfish".

We know thick people exist and we know selfish people exist. Unfortunately those are the people most likely to spread the virus and harm the rest of us, so there's still a need for the government to acknowledge that and minimise the risk they pose to the rest of us.

If thick people exist then make the guidance understandable to thick people. Don't make it deliberately vague and then say "haha well you're thick if you don't understand it".

If behavioural scientists warn you that guidance had to be seen to be observed from the top down, or else you'll lose public buy in, then you observe it from the top down. You dont undermine it all just to protect one person.

Managing the virus involves managing people and their behaviour. That includes thick people and selfish people.

I agree. Make the guidelines so the thickest can understand. It's like at school in my day the teacher went at the pace of the slowest. It may be shit for the brighter ones but everyone got the message

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

World-beating

Reading this thread, it appears most of those people have only died to make Boris look bad, the selfish bastards........

 

[grunge]

It is
It was 2500 per day a week a go
3250 a day the week before that,
4000 the week before that.

in graph form.

3 day rolling average

this site is excellent, you can and and compare what ever countries you like from loads of graph options
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/...y-average?country=FRA~ITA~NLD~KOR~ESP~GBR~USA




Adding for context.... we need to realise this isn't petering out. its still increasing globally.

 

[jonmcity]

Our April does not look good, stays high, while others drop fast.

 

[Uwe`s Grandad]

Department of Health and Social Care
@DHSCgovuk
As of 9am 28 May, there have been 3,918,079 tests, with 119,587 tests on 27 May.

269,127 people have tested positive.

As of 5pm on 27 May, of those tested positive for coronavirus, across all settings, 37,837 have sadly died.



4:35 PM · May 28, 2020

 

[Gabriel]

South Koreans seem to be drawing connections, albeit inconclusive, between the new ‘spike’ and the earlier one involving a nightclub.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...ight-trouble-surge-cases-200528041458518.html

Do sense that large buildings with poor ventilation are not going to be allowed to reopen soon, which must be worrying for the pub industry in the UK.