Fortuntely, if that happens, there's more justification to hand out thread bans as it'd be off topic and neither contributor could complain.Possibly serves the purpose of being a place people can be told to fuck off to when they try dragging brexit into other threads/debates? Imho if this thread goes you'll just get the same cunts having the same arguments in other threads and spoiling / derailing them.
So far as I know, no. I did pick up the bit about being willing to discuss. If we believe he's a consultant, and he delivered reports like that, I'd worry about what bad news he was hiding in the verbiage.Couldn’t be arsed reading it. Is it worth me knowing a summary as he tagged me in it? Probably some shit about stalking I would guess.
"Whatever is the outcome of our democratic decision to leave is now the responsibility of the uk government, present and future. That is one of Brexit greatest legacies."Mods, Ric, whomever makes these decisions surely it is fast approaching the time when this thread needs to be locked and perhaps consigned (promoted?) To the classic threads forum?
Brexit is done. That's not a smug statement, it's a fact. The decision has been taken, for right or wrong depending on your opinion, but done nevertheless and this thread has fast descended into a squabbling, childish mess quite frankly.
Whatever is the outcome of our democratic decision to leave is now the responsibility of the uk government, present and future. That is one of Brexit greatest legacies. In the future decisions taken by uk govts will now have full accountability as there will be no excuse of "the EU made us/stopped us do it"
The war is over. One side won, one side lost. Let's all move on, there is precious little benefit in rehashing old arguments about a decision that has already been taken.
"Whatever is the outcome of our democratic decision to leave is now the responsibility of the uk government, present and future. That is one of Brexit greatest legacies."
The flaw there is that Brexit's legacy will be that "leaving it to the government" is what we should have done and not had a referendum. The legacy of all this is that you now have no say in what Johnson and unelected Cummings do about any deal, nor does our sovereign Parliament. People didn't like unelected officials in Brussels making policy but are content to have one unelected bloke dictating how we live for the foreseeable future (having dictated how many will die in the near future).
Nobody makes you come on here to say it's all pointless, or makes mcfc1632 take up half a page to moan about something, or rejoice in problems for the EU caused by a pandemic and say let's discuss things then ignore any detail issues he hasn't thought about, or makes MB set up goalposts then keep moving them.
If we could have a new thread about the price of fish, and farming and finance and factories, I'd say close thisthread, but they would just be on the new thread with variations of "we won" and "why I'm here posting in a pointless thread".
But it is an insult that adds nothing to any debate.Gammon is not a race..
But it is an insult that adds nothing to any debate.
Not in the same league of viciousness but there you go. Brexitard is pretty vicious too.Neither does Snowflake or Remoaner but those on the Leave side are happy to use them.
You think we should shut the thread at a time when we are negotiating a treaty that will set the course for this country for a generation or two and doing so whilst in the midst of a pandemic?
Well it’s a take I suppose.
Probably would have done the same in 1939. ‘Look war has been declared. No point rehashing old arguments about appeasement vs rearmament. Decision has now been taken’.
I'm afraid my idea of accountability isn't elective dictatorship for five years.Exactly. So if you don't like this government (as I don't) then in a few years you can vote them out.
You never know, god willing, we might one day end up with a labour party that rediscovers it's socialist ideals, led by a socialist, proposing socialist policies (which as true socialists would involve deciding to stay out of the EU). That's what I'm dreaming of. And thanks to us, now you can dream of it too.
The government of this nation going forward, of whatever political stripe, now has no excuses. Govern and be judged on your record.
It's what many of the leave side fought for. A coalition of left and right, fighting for decades to give us full governmental accountability back.
You're welcome.
That's a great analogy actually chief, cheers.
That's exactly what we did do in 1939. All the old arguments went out the window and the country came together to fight European fascism. All the experts predicted disaster and complete anhiliation. But an ever increasing number of folk said "this far. Not one step more".
And we came together for the greater good and the nation survived. Victoroius. Unbowed.
So how about it fella? Are you ready to drop past arguments now the decision is made and work with your fellow man for the greater good? You know it's the right thing to do. Theres a good lad.
Oh FFS were you wrapped in the flag of St George when you typed that?
That's a great analogy actually chief, cheers.
That's exactly what we did do in 1939. All the old arguments went out the window and the country came together to fight European fascism. All the experts predicted disaster and complete anhiliation. But an ever increasing number of folk said "this far. Not one step more".
And we came together for the greater good and the nation survived. Victoroius. Unbowed.
So how about it fella? Are you ready to drop past arguments now the decision is made and work with your fellow man for the greater good? You know it's the right thing to do. Theres a good lad.
I really do despair sometimes. "We came together for the greater good" - and just left the politicians to it? There was no argument about Churchill taking over? (Did you believe that film that had Churchill taking soundings from Londoners on the tube?) Here's what did for Chamberlain - an Admiral of the Fleet, who happened to be an MP, in the Commons on May 7, 1940, on the Norway campaign: "The German naval force, however, consisted of only two destroyers which should and could have been speedily eliminated with little risk. This is not a criticism from knowledge after the event, as ever since 16th April I have been urging the Admiralty to take more vigorous naval action, and in view of the Italian bluster I proposed that the naval co-operation could have been afforded by old ships, of which we could risk the loss without affecting the strength of the Fleet. When I realised how badly things were going later, and saw another Gallipoli looming ahead, I never ceased importuning the Admiralty and the War Cabinet to let me take all responsibility and organise and lead the attack." (The Daily Express had a placard - "War Office Deny British Disaster")
No-one gave up thinking about how the war should be conducted.
The greater good (for us and the EU) would be abandon Brexit. The next would be a realistic deal. Disagree about what that is, but don't make out that it's none of our bloody business.
Great Post....Exactly. So if you don't like this government (as I don't) then in a few years you can vote them out.
You never know, god willing, we might one day end up with a labour party that rediscovers it's socialist ideals, led by a socialist, proposing socialist policies (which as true socialists would involve deciding to stay out of the EU). That's what I'm dreaming of. And thanks to us, now you can dream of it too.
The government of this nation going forward, of whatever political stripe, now has no excuses. Govern and be judged on your record.
It's what many of the leave side fought for. A coalition of left and right, fighting for decades to give us full governmental accountability back.
You're welcome.
It is not neant to....But it is an insult that adds nothing to any debate.
Genuine question - and I really would you like to answer it....Neither does Snowflake or Remoaner but those on the Leave side are happy to use them.
If I was a betting man......That's a great analogy actually chief, cheers.
That's exactly what we did do in 1939. All the old arguments went out the window and the country came together to fight European fascism. All the experts predicted disaster and complete anhiliation. But an ever increasing number of folk said "this far. Not one step more".
And we came together for the greater good and the nation survived. Victoroius. Unbowed.
So how about it fella? Are you ready to drop past arguments now the decision is made and work with your fellow man for the greater good? You know it's the right thing to do. Theres a good lad.
Genuine question - and I really would you like to answer it....
How many times have those descriptors been used on this thread and what percentage of the occurrences have been made my Leave / Remain supporters.....???
Also - how often in recent years have Leavers used them?
I will give you a clue.......
You are going to absolutely hate the answer / reality
It continues the theme of inconvenient truths
Seriously, I think that Remainers are probably more 'disappointed' with his contributions than Leavers.I can't even begin to tell you just how fucking stupid a comment that is.
You troll new depths daily.
No - don't run and hidesnow flake and especially Remoaner have featured a lot on here - far more than gammon I'd say.
However I know you won't believe that and before you ask no I won't prove it you feel free to do your own research