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Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Sky News just reporting that Bank of England Governor tells banks to step up preparations for a no deal Brexit.


  • No trade deals signed that are better than the ones we currently have (only 40 signed anyway)
  • Worst recession for 300 years looming (Sunak words not mine)
  • The only country in the world trading purely on WTO rules
  • imposition of substantial tariffs
  • Sterling set for a 'fraught few months' (JP Morgans words not mine);
  • Tens of Billions of soured loans expected to materialise.
  • Covid19 still impacting
  • Unemployment likely to be at its highest for ten years.



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Well done guys.

Well done.

This capable, experienced, respected, responsible government will navigate these minor bumps in the road for us and our children.
 
Gaudion M said:
A simple truth that has been there all along. And if our biggest manufacturing plants are unsustainable and are shut down what happens to the small ones that supply them, and what happens to the small businesses in the communities that are dominated by them.

As I have said before any PM who takes us down this road will be gone within 6 months of trying to implement it, it would cost a fortune and decimate the economy. Yet brexiteers think this is some sort of stick we can beat the EU with....
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But - you have not knowingly been right about anything Brexit related for 4 years - and demonstrably wrong on so many occasions

So we Leavers thank you for your continued support
 
robbieh said:
I think a government of national Unity is required for this now as it's quite obvious the current government couldn't organize a piss up in Witherspoon's.

This could include former remainers but on the understanding that we are definitely leaving. Above all we need sensible and mature politicians managing this not the mad fuckers normally associated with Brexit.

Unfortunately it won't happen as the press and a large percentage of the population put this idiotic crew in charge.
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No, we don't want any government of national unity, we voted in who we wanted.
And introducing the likes of Thornberry and the rest of the shower that bust their
collective guts trying to overturn democracy isn't what we want either, they've had it,
are out for the forseeable, and they're fucking staying out.
It's time people got used to this, unpalatable though it may be to them, Labour didn't convince
the public, they never have, and so they stay in opposition until they do.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Sky News just reporting that Bank of England Governor tells banks to step up preparations for a no deal Brexit.


  • No trade deals signed that are better than the ones we currently have (only 40 signed anyway)
  • Worst recession for 300 years looming (Sunak words not mine)
  • The only country in the world trading purely on WTO rules
  • imposition of substantial tariffs
  • Sterling set for a 'fraught few months' (JP Morgans words not mine);
  • Tens of Billions of soured loans expected to materialise.
  • Covid19 still impacting
  • Unemployment likely to be at its highest for ten years.



Sunny uplands and Unicorns are that way------------------------------------------------------->
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If, over the years, you'd ever been right about anything, we might be worried, but
thankfully, we have the evidence.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
No, we don't want any government of national unity, we voted in who we wanted.
And introducing the likes of Thornberry and the rest of the shower that bust their
collective guts trying to overturn democracy isn't what we want either, they've had it,
are out for the forseeable, and they're fucking staying out.
It's time people got used to this, unpalatable though it may be to them, Labour didn't convince
the public, they never have, and so they stay in opposition until they do.
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what is it about this government that you admire and believe is worthy of support? Why do you believe that they will deliver a successful outcome for the UK. Genuinely interested.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Sky News just reporting that Bank of England Governor tells banks to step up preparations for a no deal Brexit.


  • No trade deals signed that are better than the ones we currently have (only 40 signed anyway)
  • Worst recession for 300 years looming (Sunak words not mine)
  • The only country in the world trading purely on WTO rules
  • imposition of substantial tariffs
  • Sterling set for a 'fraught few months' (JP Morgans words not mine);
  • Tens of Billions of soured loans expected to materialise.
  • Covid19 still impacting
  • Unemployment likely to be at its highest for ten years.



Sunny uplands and Unicorns are that way------------------------------------------------------->
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Thanks for posting some positive news

In many ways - given the EU's strategic plans in the Financial Sector that have been available for a few years (and no - I do not expect you to be aware) - this is the right time to make the break when the impact will be greater on the EU than it would be in a few years after they have been able to implement their plans.

What - no link?

Perhaps, on this occasion you have actually read the article and spotted that there was insufficient bad news - so you had to make up for that by provinding a list that has nothing whatsoever to do with this announcement????

Let me help:

"Britain’s financial services minister John Glen said on Wednesday that the country’s financial services industry was “world class” and was ready for whatever Brexit outcome.

“I continue to believe that we are still well placed as a sector, whatever the specific outcomes are of negotiations ahead of us in the second half of this year,” he said on a webinar."

and:

"The UK left the EU in January and a transition period ends on December 31st. After that, without a preferential deal, British banks, insurers and asset managers will be limited to the kind of access given by the bloc to the United States, Japan and Singapore.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...nks-to-get-ready-for-no-deal-brexit-1.4269591

Well won't that be a disaster - London will be limited to the same status as those pauper financial centres US, Japan and Singapore!!
 
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Ancient Citizen said:
No, we don't want any government of national unity, we voted in who we wanted.
And introducing the likes of Thornberry and the rest of the shower that bust their
collective guts trying to overturn democracy isn't what we want either, they've had it,
are out for the forseeable, and they're fucking staying out.
It's time people got used to this, unpalatable though it may be to them, Labour didn't convince
the public, they never have, and so they stay in opposition until they do.
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To be fair AC, I think that was just a forgivable typo of his, he probably meant to say:

" What I want - and fuck the majority of the UK citizens that have repeatedly demonstrated their support for Brexit - is a government of national Unity...………."
 
mcfc1632 said:
Thanks for posting some positive news

In many ways - given the EU's strategic plans in the Financial Sector that have been available for a few years (no - I do not expect you to be aware) - this is the right time to make the break when the impact will be greater on the EU than it would be in a few years after they have been able to implement their plans.

What - no link?

Perhaps, on this occasion you have actually read the article and spotted that there was insufficient bad news - so you had to make up for that by provinding a list that has nothing whatsoever to do with this announcement????

Let me help:

"Britain’s financial services minister John Glen said on Wednesday that the country’s financial services industry was “world class” and was ready for whatever Brexit outcome.

“I continue to believe that we are still well placed as a sector, whatever the specific outcomes are of negotiations ahead of us in the second half of this year,” he said on a webinar."

and:

"The UK left the EU in January and a transition period ends on December 31st. After that, without a preferential deal, British banks, insurers and asset managers will be limited to the kind of access given by the bloc to the United States, Japan and Singapore.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...nks-to-get-ready-for-no-deal-brexit-1.4269591

Well won't that be a disaster - London will be limited to the same status as those pauper financial centres US, Japan and Singapore!!
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Nowhere near as good as the current 'passporting' arrangements though. There will be a hit on both sides.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
what is it about this government that you admire and believe is worthy of support? Why do you believe that they will deliver a successful outcome for the UK. Genuinely interested.
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There are plenty of things I don't admire, but plenty more I don't about the alternative.
For me, if they stick to their current stance with the EU, I believe we will get a FTA.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Thanks for posting some positive news

In many ways - given the EU's strategic plans in the Financial Sector that have been available for a few years (no - I do not expect you to be aware) - this is the right time to make the break when the impact will be greater on the EU than it would be in a few years after they have been able to implement their plans.

What - no link?

Perhaps, on this occasion you have actually read the article and spotted that there was insufficient bad news - so you had to make up for that by provinding a list that has nothing whatsoever to do with this announcement????

Let me help:

"Britain’s financial services minister John Glen said on Wednesday that the country’s financial services industry was “world class” and was ready for whatever Brexit outcome.

“I continue to believe that we are still well placed as a sector, whatever the specific outcomes are of negotiations ahead of us in the second half of this year,” he said on a webinar."

and:

"The UK left the EU in January and a transition period ends on December 31st. After that, without a preferential deal, British banks, insurers and asset managers will be limited to the kind of access given by the bloc to the United States, Japan and Singapore.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...nks-to-get-ready-for-no-deal-brexit-1.4269591

Well won't that be a disaster - London will be limited to the same status as those pauper financial centres US, Japan and Singapore!!
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And how do US and Japanese Banks get round this ‘limited access’?
 
Saddleworth2 said:
what is it about this government that you admire and believe is worthy of support? Why do you believe that they will deliver a successful outcome for the UK. Genuinely interested.
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There has been an increasing drive from Remainers to conflate the subject of Brexit with the government mis-management of the pandemic - not just you - it is an increasing theme.

Why - genuine question - because it seem a pretty desperate ploy.

Leaving the EU is fundamental change that will underpin the well-being of the UK for generations to come, during which many governments (Labour or Tory) will come and go. Some of them will be brilliant and others will be shite

The performance of this government in other areas can be seen to be a disappointment - they have so far only done one thing of significance with regards to Brexit - get us out of the EU

So on that basis - and specific to the subject of EU membership - it is clearly self-evident that this government has a far better record than many/any that have gone before

Obvious examples of previous governments which performed much worse - on the subject of EU membership include:
  • Majors - the lying fucker used the promise of a referendum to get elected and then reneged
  • Blairs -the lying fucker used the promise of a referendum to get elected and then reneged
  • May - the spineless cow didn't even have the courage to renege on the commitment to Leave - she instead sought to tie the UK into EU vassalage for generations to come

This government may have shown incompetence in other areas - but for me, the test on Brexit will be if they hold their resolve and get the UK out cleanly - then business leaders and the City can lead the way on ensuring that the UK flourish. They and professional advisors will steer the government on required policies and actions.

The likes of Johnson and the entire cabinet can be fucked off for me - just as soon as we have not only left - but put sufficient change in place that re-joining is not a feasible option.
 
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Saddleworth2 said:
Nowhere near as good as the current 'passporting' arrangements though. There will be a hit on both sides.
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And.....

That is for the UK and EU to decide

Continued passporting would be the best outcome - but not to be traded for accepting continued EU controls and ECJ governance


Continued passporting would be a terrible outcome if it meant such acquiescence ​
 
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