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[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Great. Show us some examples of his racism.

Like father; like son.

His father was arrested at a KKK rally, and whilst this isn't Trump himself, it does demonstrate that racism was a thing in his family.

His company (Trump Management) was sued in 1973 for racial discrimination against black tenants, for which Trump entered a consent decree (agreed to end the practice without actually admitting guilt). He was also sued again for the same thing in 1978, but he ran that to ground through the courts and the case effectively ended in 1982 (he basically paid to make the case go away).

Central Park 5 - Called for the death penalty despite shaky evidence of their guilt (took out a full page ad in the paper). They were later exonerated in 2002, but even as late as 2019, he was still standing his 19889 comments (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48687356)

Called African countries 'Sh*thole countries'

Called Mexican immigrants 'Rapists and Murderers'

Birtherism - Claimed Obama wasn't American

Good people, on both sides speech at Charlottesville when one side were clearly white supremacists.

That's not an exhaustive list, and there are plenty of other people who have either worked with him or for him who also believe Trump is racist.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

This is the funniest rebuttal I've ever seen.

Nothing but a photo op.

"I can't be a racist. Look at this picture of me with all these smiling black people".

https://www.insidehighered.com/news...s-false-his-administration-has-largely-backed

 

[BluechesterCity]

Trump's a racist. Someone should tell the folk in the White House.

https://newsthud.com/watch-black-leaders-pray-for-trump-at-black-history-month-celebration/

Like father; like son.

His father was arrested at a KKK rally, and whilst this isn't Trump himself, it does demonstrate that racism was a thing in his family.

His company (Trump Management) was sued in 1973 for racial discrimination against black tenants, for which Trump entered a consent decree (agreed to end the practice without actually admitting guilt). He was also sued again for the same thing in 1978, but he ran that to ground through the courts and the case effectively ended in 1982 (he basically paid to make the case go away).

Central Park 5 - Called for the death penalty despite shaky evidence of their guilt (took out a full page ad in the paper). They were later exonerated in 2002, but even as late as 2019, he was still standing his 19889 comments (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48687356)

Called African countries 'Sh*thole countries'

Called Mexican immigrants 'Rapists and Murderers'

Birtherism - Claimed Obama wasn't American

Good people, on both sides speech at Charlottesville when one side were clearly white supremacists.

That's not an exhaustive list, and there are plenty of other people who have either worked with him or for him who also believe Trump is racist.

Hilarious. You lose when you use the Mexican immigrant lie. Watch the clip in full - clue, he was talking about MS13. His actions have had thousands arrested and human and drug trafficking networks destroyed. Those guy lol!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Trump's a racist. Someone should tell the folk in the White House.

https://newsthud.com/watch-black-leaders-pray-for-trump-at-black-history-month-celebration/


Hilarious. You lose when you use the Mexican immigrant lie. Watch the clip in full - clue, he was talking about MS13. His actions have had thousands arrested and human and drug trafficking networks destroyed. Those guy lol!

Do you think he’s sane, clinically speaking?

 

[BluechesterCity]

Do you think he’s sane, clinically speaking?

As sane as any of the psychos who have been president during my lifetime.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

As sane as any of the psychos who have been president during my lifetime.

Is that a ‘yes’?

 

[bluemcr]

It does make you wonder what our country or the rest of the world will be like in the future. The world is a fucking mess and u got to be worried for your kids.

 

[The perfect fumble]

We are all equal, some including a millionaire celebrity actor are more equal than others.

You're right! I'm never watching Star Trek again.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Trump's a racist. Someone should tell the folk in the White House.

https://newsthud.com/watch-black-leaders-pray-for-trump-at-black-history-month-celebration/


Hilarious. You lose when you use the Mexican immigrant lie. Watch the clip in full - clue, he was talking about MS13. His actions have had thousands arrested and human and drug trafficking networks destroyed. Those guy lol!

This is not about winning and losing; it's about Trump being racist. He is by the way.

Even if the you say the Mexican comments is false, you may have a point, but those comments were only clarified after the initial outrage.

 

[bluemcr]

This is not about winning and losing; it's about Trump being racist. He is by the way.

Even if the you say the Mexican comments is false, you may have a point, but those comments were only clarified after the initial outrage.

Do you think John Boyega is racist?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Do you think John Boyega is racist?

That is irrelevant as to whether or not Trump is racist, but I do not dispute that some black people may be guilty of racism also.

 

[BluechesterCity]

This is not about winning and losing; it's about Trump being racist. He is by the way.

Even if the you say the Mexican comments is false, you may have a point, but those comments were only clarified after the initial outrage.

Saying someone is a racist doesn't make it true. No matter how many times you read it in the Guardian. No, they were only clarified after certain sections of the media selectively edited his remarks. People who were outraged apparently lack the independent thinking skills to do a 10 second fact check.

8% of African Americans disagreed with you in 2016.

28% of the Hispanic vote

27% of the Asian vote

36% Other

https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2016

 

[bluemcr]

That is irrelevant as to whether or not Trump is racist.

Yeah of course it is I'm just throwing it in there. Hes quoted as saying "White on black racism is the only racism that matters to me" it's just I found that offensive.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Yeah of course it is I'm just throwing it in there. Hes quoted as saying "White on black racism is the only racism that matters to me" it's just I found that offensive.

It can be difficult to empathise I guess. Given that I'm white I can only begin to imagine how difficult it must be to know that the colour of my skin could mean the difference between a whole number of outcomes and opportunities. White on black racism matters to him because he lives it on a daily basis.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Saying someone is a racist doesn't make it true. No matter how many times you read it in the Guardian. No, they were only clarified after certain sections of the media selectively edited his remarks. People who were outraged apparently lack the independent thinking skills to do a 10 second fact check.

8% of African Americans disagreed with you in 2016.

28% of the Hispanic vote

27% of the Asian vote

36% Other

https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2016

Those figures are misleading. The votes were cast predominantly on perceived economic outcome, not a race argument. If you believe a racist is going to significantly increase your income you would bite your lip and take it. You aren't going to turn that down just because you think he's a racist, especially if you are in a low income bracket.

 

[bluemcr]

It can be difficult to empathise I guess. Given that I'm white I can only begin to imagine how difficult it must be to know that the colour of my skin could mean the difference between a whole number of outcomes and opportunities. White on black racism matters to him because he lives it on a daily basis.

It's ok to be white there I said it. Racism isn't a one way street, for all of mankind to get through this I would of thought you need mutual respect on both sides. I know its black peoples time and most are supporting them but there will come a point in life where it will be our time and I hope we get the same respect and support. I for one and my wife have encountered racism countless times whilst living in Birmingham. Rapper Lil Wayne said hes never encountered racism ever. White privilege please, most whites I know have worked hard for what they have and have come from nothing.

 

[Vialli98]

That is irrelevant as to whether or not Trump is racist, but I do not dispute that some black people may be guilty of racism also.

It can be argued that true racism, the kind of racism that genuinely matter, is the intersection of power and bigotry.

So if the above statement is true, then the absence of true power in society, which black people as a group lack, certainly in the western world, means the most black people can be guilty of racial prejudice, which is pretty fucking horrible also and should never be condoned. It begins to get into complicated philosophical realms when you attempt to truly discuss such a claim, but at the very basic level, one could argue there are big differences between white on black bigotry vs black on white bigotry.

 

[BluechesterCity]

Those figures are misleading. The votes were cast predominantly on perceived economic outcome, not a race argument. If you believe a racist is going to significantly increase your income you would bite your lip and take it. You aren't going to turn that down just because you think he's a racist, especially if you are in a low income bracket.

That's truly fascinating.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Do you think John Boyega is racist?

I dislike John Boyega now.




Not because of last night, but for criticising Star Wars

 

[bluemcr]

It can be argued that true racism, the kind of racism that genuinely matter, is the intersection of power and bigotry.

So if the above statement is true, then the absence of true power in society, which black people as a group lack, certainly in the western world, means the most black people can be guilty of racial prejudice, which is pretty fucking horrible also and should never be condoned. It begins to get into complicated philosophical realms when you attempt to truly discuss such a claim, but at the very basic level, one could argue there are big differences between white on black bigotry vs black on white bigotry.

What would you say the big differences are a few examples.