Alexandole Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

Ifwecouldjust....... said:
No one is asking the question ..... Why has the taxpayer forked out £10,000 to each MP so that they can vote and work from home..... and then Rees Mogg demands that they all come in and vote against voting and working from home?
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That’s 10 years that we’ve ‘all been in this together’. Funnily enough, the one time it has maybe felt like that was for the two months from March. A shared loneliness if you like, to ‘do the right thing’ and him and his Svengali have even managed to balls that up.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Above the alternatives?
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Genuine question, how bad does it have to be before you countenance the idea that he was the wrong option?

Do you not think it's a complete disaster when you see our daily death count is higher than the EU's combined? Because that seem completely insane to me.

Do you not feel we're being taken for mugs when they lie to us about testing numbers?

What do you think when the PM addresses the nation and says we'll have a world class track and trace system in place and then we end up with this?

I just don't understand it at all. Something has is going so seriously wrong in this country and I don't get why people still think Johnson is remotely suited to the task at all.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
No one is asking the question ..... Why has the taxpayer forked out £10,000 to each MP so that they can vote and work from home..... and then Rees Mogg demands that they all come in and vote against voting and working from home?
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I think that grant was more to get their constituency work and their office employees in a situation to work from home (which i think most still are?). However, it's still a relevant point. The grant is a recognition of the fact that certain kinds of work can and should be done from home.

Given the amount of travelling around the country involved for MPs to attend parliament and the fact it's very easy for them to vote from home, this situation is beyond a farce. It also sets a very bad example for other workplaces which should be being strongly encouraged to keep people working from home where possible.

It's a weird take when I see people say "some people have had to go into work throughout this so parliament should do the same". Really we should be saying "lots of businesses have worked really hard to adapt overnight to homeworking and parliament should do the same."

The best thing we can do going forward is keep anyone who can work from home working from home. It keeps them safe and it keeps their families safe. It also keeps people safer who can't work from home and have to go to work. Those who don't need to be travelling should be keeping space clear and infection rates lower for those who have no choice.

What's happening in parliament at the moment is irresponsible and the example it sets will cause problems for us all further down the line.
 
Mon Autre said:
Genuine question, how bad does it have to be before you countenance the idea that he was the wrong option?

Do you not think it's a complete disaster when you see our daily death count is higher than the EU's combined? Because that seem completely insane to me.

Do you not feel we're being taken for mugs when they lie to us about testing numbers?

What do you think when the PM addresses the nation and says we'll have a world class track and trace system in place and then we end up with this?

I just don't understand it at all. Something has is going so seriously wrong in this country and I don't get why people still think Johnson is remotely suited to the task at all.
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Genuine answer.
When the hindsight police have been removed from the scene, when this ends, and all figures/responses/
actions etc; are collated, then compared worldwide, together with the financial packages other nations
offered, and the response of their populations and health services to it, and these are weighed against ours, I'll give an opinion.
If we end up as the single most nation on earth with the worst results in every department,
I will say so, but then again, I don't think we will.
Until then, the opinions of those who hate all things Conservative, are not uppermost in my thoughts.
They are most certainly entitled to their opinions, but as most of these are irrelevant in the scheme
of things, as their political choices have been rejected, we wait and see.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Genuine answer.
When the hindsight police have been removed from the scene, when this ends, and all figures/responses/
actions etc; are collated, then compared worldwide, together with the financial packages other nations
offered, and the response of their populations and health services to it, and these are weighed against ours, I'll give an opinion.
If we end up as the single most nation on earth with the worst results in every department,
I will say so, but then again, I don't think we will.
Until then, the opinions of those who hate all things Conservative, are not uppermost in my thoughts.
They are most certainly entitled to their opinions, but as most of these are irrelevant in the scheme
of things, as their political choices have been rejected, we wait and see.
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Id be interested to learn your reasons for voting Conservative ..... really would
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Id be interested to learn your reasons for voting Conservative ..... really would
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No you wouldn't, you really wouldn't.
But, most of us I'd presume, live in the north, so there are hundreds of thousands of ex Labour
voters freshly converted, and I'm sure you must know some of them, I know loads.
So try asking them.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Genuine answer.
When the hindsight police have been removed from the scene, when this ends, and all figures/responses/
actions etc; are collated, then compared worldwide, together with the financial packages other nations
offered, and the response of their populations and health services to it, and these are weighed against ours, I'll give an opinion.
If we end up as the single most nation on earth with the worst results in every department,
I will say so, but then again, I don't think we will.
Until then, the opinions of those who hate all things Conservative, are not uppermost in my thoughts.
They are most certainly entitled to their opinions, but as most of these are irrelevant in the scheme
of things, as their political choices have been rejected, we wait and see.
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So you would pick the Oxo cube
 
Ancient Citizen said:
No you wouldn't, you really wouldn't.
But, most of us I'd presume, live in the north, so there are hundreds of thousands of ex Labour
voters freshly converted, and I'm sure you must know some of them, I know loads.
So try asking them.
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I have a long list of reasons
Tell us yours and i will let you know what's missing.
 
I voted Conservative because the Labour party not only ignored millions of its leave voting traditional support, it also felt they could insult it.

It really was that simple.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Genuine answer.
When the hindsight police have been removed from the scene, when this ends, and all figures/responses/
actions etc; are collated, then compared worldwide, together with the financial packages other nations
offered, and the response of their populations and health services to it, and these are weighed against ours, I'll give an opinion.
If we end up as the single most nation on earth with the worst results in every department,
I will say so, but then again, I don't think we will.
Until then, the opinions of those who hate all things Conservative, are not uppermost in my thoughts.
They are most certainly entitled to their opinions, but as most of these are irrelevant in the scheme
of things, as their political choices have been rejected, we wait and see.
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Ok but i don't really understand the hindsight argument. People were on record at the very beginning of this saying we needed to be preparing and the PM wasn't even attending meetings at that stage. They have been reactive throughout. The predictions of any layperson have come true throughout all of this. I hope you're correct and there is maybe some bigger strategy at work where it all comes out of the wash in a few years time and we came out if it better than most in the long term. I personally can't see it happening. Even when they do try to act (albeit too late) they fall short. And the scenes in parliament this week have been farcical.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Genuine answer.
When the hindsight police have been removed from the scene, when this ends, and all figures/responses/
actions etc; are collated, then compared worldwide, together with the financial packages other nations
offered, and the response of their populations and health services to it, and these are weighed against ours, I'll give an opinion.
If we end up as the single most nation on earth with the worst results in every department,
I will say so, but then again, I don't think we will.
Until then, the opinions of those who hate all things Conservative, are not uppermost in my thoughts.
They are most certainly entitled to their opinions, but as most of these are irrelevant in the scheme
of things, as their political choices have been rejected, we wait and see.
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No hindsight involved at all mate.
Nero BoJo fiddled while Rome burnt.
 
If he doesn’t come out and start saying that these gatherings of protesters need to fuck off or they will receive severe fines, then he’s a shithouse.

These gatherings are getting on my fucking wick!

He needs to start leading, considering he’s supposed to be, you know, the leader.
 
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carlosthejackal said:
Correct, hindsight wasn’t required , Johnson’s ineptitude and lies were as clear as day well before he was elected PM
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Ancient and chums can't admit that, of course. The ramifications for their belief system are too great.

Which is why they continue to defend and deflect from the truth that is staring everyone in the face.

Some people never actually grow up.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
If he doesn’t come out and start saying that these gatherings of protesters need to fuck off or they will receive severe fines, then he’s a shithouse.

These gatherings are getting on my fucking wick!

He needs to start leading, considering he’s supposed to be, you know, the leader.
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The lunatics have taken over the asylum
 
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