UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[blueyorkie]

Don't think so if the original case was brought within the five year limit?

With respect the case had to be brought within 5 years of the alleged breach, as per UEFA regulations, they missed that!

 

[DrBlueBob]

*gulps - I'm just a cook.

That's one for the teenagers Tolm.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Settlements generally are not an admission of the breach or "guilt". In fact they usually specifically say the exact opposite - ie that the parties don't accept any breaches actually took place.

Similar to Liverpool hacking our scouting base and paying 1 million dollars ?

 

[ganganvince]

*gulps - I'm just a cook.

 

[Sir peace frog]

*gulps - I'm just a cook.

nope cant do it ,was going to edit it,but i cant :)

 

[blueyorkie]

It may cut it dead but only having considered all of the case. They won't stop it half way through and say "I agree, case closed"

Thank you

 

[toffee balls]

Even though Khaldoon said we wouldn't do it again you could see a Pinch MK2 coming out of this. Obviously it would have to have no ban whatsoever but if it was a small financial penalty and a don't make it look like you are trying to get round the rules in future type of thing.

Not a chance.
We were swizzled once by the representatives of the G14 cartel , not again.

 

[Norbert D]

You never know this time tomorrow evening we may be reading the headline “ Man City ban sensationally overturned as CAS through case out on day one of hearing due to UEFAs failure to present credible evidence of wrong doing”. And a footnote “Man City to sue corrupt bastards for unlimited damages”.

 

[slbsn]

Similar to Liverpool hacking our scouting base and paying 1 million dollars ?

Yes. I'd put big money on there being a clause that says words to the effect "Nothing in this Agreement or any related document shall be construed as constituting an admission of any liability or wrongdoing whatsoever by either of the Parties or be admissible in any proceedings as evidence of liability or wrongdoing by either of the Parties." It may also say: "The Parties acknowledge and agree that there is a possibility that, after settling this matter, it will discover facts which were unknown or unsuspected at the time, and which if known by such Party at the time of this settlement might have materially affected its decision to settle this matter and the Parties are assuming any risk of such unknown facts and such unknown and unsuspected claims"

 

[City Man]

Dark forces involved here, have a feeling it will be upheld because what we are against however, when it does I think we will unleash hell. Its a long game.

It is a serious mistake to think that somehow the CAS are part of any dark forces. If the CAS decision goes in any way against us , then there will be a plethora of posts on here about the CAS being bent. So if you're inclined to think that may be the case then Google the CAS list (panel) of people and their CVs then ask yourself honestly if these people will do anything other than judge the matter objectively. In fact, I'm surprised given the Cvs of these people they can stoop so low as to be on a sports arbitration court. But I imagine they do it because they think sport is important. They are definitely not short of a bob or two.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Yes. I'd put big money on there being a clause that says words to the effect "Nothing in this Agreement or any related document shall be construed as constituting an admission of any liability or wrongdoing whatsoever by either of the Parties or be admissible in any proceedings as evidence of liability or wrongdoing by either of the Parties." It may also say: "The Parties acknowledge and agree that there is a possibility that, after settling this matter, it will discover facts which were unknown or unsuspected at the time, and which if known by such Party at the time of this settlement might have materially affected its decision to settle this matter and the Parties are assuming any risk of such unknown facts and such unknown and unsuspected claims"

Thanks PD, once I'd got my stubborn head off, given the information you've posted, I think it would be wise to give it serious consideration if that was on the table, as unpalatable as it may be.

 

[Grassland Blue]

Just a thought, I wonder if we would be OK with just accepting a fine with NO ban, or would even that be an admission of guilt?

No, we have done nothing wrong.
If you were accused of something you hadn't done would you take a stripe?

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

I hope @projectriver isn't charging Ric his standard hourly rate for his contributions to this thread?

 

[BringBackSwales]

Who are the three people on the CAS panel? I know one is our, one is an independent and one is a uefa cunnt, but who are the 3?

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

It is a serious mistake to think that somehow the CAS are part of any dark forces. If the CAS decision goes in any way against us , then there will be a plethora of posts on here about the CAS being bent. So if you're inclined to think that may be the case then Google the CAS list (panel) of people and their CVs then ask yourself honestly if these people will do anything other than judge the matter objectively. In fact, I'm surprised given the Cvs of these people they can stoop so low as to be on a sports arbitration court. But I imagine they do it because they think sport is important. They are definitely not short of a bob or two.

Quite right. People in power with a bob or two are completely incorruptible.

 

[Bill the Blue]

Whatever the outcome and I truly believe we are innocent, I like the rest of us will remain fully behind our club..!

Any sort of guilty verdict, ban or fine will be the result of a stitch up in my opinion..!

What gives me comfort and confidence is that we are now run by professionals who themselves, along with the club have put their reputations on the line..

If I had to pick between us and the faces who run UEFA then there would only ever be one outcome..!

We could well get fcuked over but we / football hopefully can use this opportunity to start to cleanse the game and restructure it to open up opportunities to the Newcastles of this world to possibly allow them to enjoy a slice of the cake too..!

Football needs to afford the opportunity for all teams and their fans to dream.. otherwise, what's the point..

Money is the one tool that allows this..!

Stifling clubs who want to invest their own monies to appease the G14 history clubs, the majority of which are either saddled with hugh debt or bankrolled by car manufacturing, sportswear companies, the Spanish Government or dodgy, money laundering banks, will eventually suck the life out of the game..!



Big day coming up..!

 

[M18CTID]

Varies but I suspect 10.30-1 with regular breaks and 2-4.30. Suspect City's team will try and be together now Covid has subsided yes.

Lazy fuckers - that ain’t a working day!

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

Unless UEFA have nothing concrete to hit us with then I think they will reduce the charges to one of City being uncooperative in their investigations. I think this with either a smallish fine or a change of rules is the way it will pan out. Given that we have been under the microscope since before 2014 then I can't believe that they have found nothing to fit such a serious charge and punishment to go with it. We need to be squeaky clean here.

 

[flook]

Settlements generally are not an admission of the breach or "guilt". In fact they usually specifically say the exact opposite - ie that the parties don't accept any breaches actually took place.

Whilst that may be true legally, from a general public perspective, the inference is that if you accept a deal then you've not been exactly squeaky clean

Anyway, I think the chance of a settlement has passed this time, and rightly so, one way or the other this needs to end

 

[Chappie]

Lazy fuckers - that ain’t a working day!

15 hours over the 3 day hearing will be14 hours more than they need to decide they are dealing with a corrupt bunch of wankers