George Floyd murder | Clashes between US police and protestors

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bluethrunthru said:
His default view is black men deal drugs. The driver is a black man ergo he is a drug dealer.

Never says he pulled him over for speeding or that his car comes back on ANPR as no insurance or MOT.

He stopped him because he is black. If thats not racial profiling what is?
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His default view isn’t that black men deal drugs.

I’m not sure how you have arrived at that conclusion.
 
hcblue95 said:
Why do the right keep insisting people protesting in the UK are antifa? I had never heard of antifa before trump started rambling about them. I don't think people protesting in the UK are antifa.
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i agree. I think we’re becoming very polarised as a society and it’s worrying. People are labelled on both sides (nazi / racist / ANTIFA / SJW) for simply being vocal about their beliefs.
 
Find it hard to be arsed about the statues tbh. History is littered with things being built and then torn down. It's what humans do. Circle of life innit. We'll get over it. Until something else is torn down in ten years and we all kick off again. And then move on... *shrug*
 
hcblue95 said:
Why do the right keep insisting people protesting in the UK are antifa? I had never heard of antifa before trump started rambling about them. I don't think people protesting in the UK are antifa.
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Because it's easier to simplify and demonize a singular group, as opposed to what the protesters are: a diverse collection of young and old, from a variety of class backgrounds, of a large number of different races and creeds, many of whom are unified in merely wanting to have their voices heard on an important topic, others of whom want their voices heard and are angry enough to do physical harm to symbols of what they perceive as an oppressive edifice, still others of whom want to cause mischief, hurt others and steal (and are using the collective voice of others as a shield for criminal actions).

See? Most people won't read that nor stick around for the entire explanation.
 
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Cheesy said:
M6 closed in West Mids due to protestors getting on to the motorway.

www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/m6-closed-coventry-due-black-18379111.amp

Totally & utterly counter productive.

Arsewipes.
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Thought no one was using motorways during lockdown
blueinsa said:
Social fucking distancing and a group out in the hope it kicks off.

What is.wrong with people?
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It is alrigh the Plymouth protest was the other side of the park and nowhere near.
 
bluethrunthru said:
I believe its a few years old although Cambridgeshire Police are investigating - but when people start saying " oh its different here - we aren't the US our Police are better" thats an example of what black people experience all the time in the UK.
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People who claim that institutional racism isn't a big issue across British law enforcement don't have a clue what they're talking about.

There is an absolute shitload of publicly available information with irrefutable evidence to the contrary.

It's an issue which has been allowed to fester for a long, long time. The police were actually exempt from anti-discrimination legislation when the initial Race Relations Act was drafted in 1965. They were also exempt from the next two acts and it wasn't until 2000, in the wake of Stephen Lawrence's murder and the resulting MacPherson report, that legislation was ammended to put law enforcement under the same scrutiny. The report also explicitly stated that racism was a huge contributing factor to the bungling of the investigation and it wasn't for another thirteen years that two of the six killers were brought to justice.

Five years after MacPherson report, the BBC uncover extreme racism within the Greater Manchester Police through their documentary The Secret Policeman. Before the documentary could be released, undercover journalist Mark Daly was arrested and the GMP made predictable attempts to close ranks, discredit the investigation and press charges against Daly.

Since then, hundreds of studies have been conducted into the actions that the police have taken to both combat racism and educate their officers and the results are ultimately poor at best.

Two years ago, Gareth Wilson of the NPCC made public statements that institutional racism still plagues British policing and that most of forces aren't representative of the communities they supposedly serve.

Six days ago, before the protests in England start, former officer Kevin Maxwell (who served in both Manchester and London, has written a book about being pushed out of his career in 2012 and has taken the police to court over his treatment and their conduct), calls for Britain to also get their affairs in order off the back of George Floyd's murder.

2018 reports suggest that racial bias in the conduct of polive stop and search is getting worse.

Numerous reports and various statistical data over the last fifteen years also highlights the disparity between how different ethnic groups have their DNA stockpiled, how officers are recruited and the number of deaths in custody.

I'd love to bore people to death with more info but I'm running out of time and need to make dinner. As I said, this information is all publicly available.

There has been a culture of institutional racism within the British police for hundreds of years, even after the wider world started to take legal steps to prevent it.

The sad truth is that, in my opinion, one of the main contributing factors in allowing this culture to thrive is that huge sections of the public are either apathetic or in disbelief of the facts when the information manages to make it into the public eye.

There's too much denial and there's far too much defensiveness when the subject of racial prejudice in the UK is brought up.

People need to grow up and not act so offended when others want to highlight a very real issue which is still current and damages the lives of so many. Even if those lives aren't theirs.
 
Allegedly this man George Floyd committed armed robbery in 1998
Between 2002-5 three convictions to do with cocaine.
2007 armed robbery of a pregnant woman in her own home.
When he was killed he was under the influence of crystal meth.
 
After seeing the crowds gathered this weekend I can't believe the number of people who have ignored the social distance rule.

I hope they haven't been out there clapping for our NHS over the last couple of months.

How the fuck does track and trace work with these now.
 
I'm a bit baffled now the gloves are off and mobs are attacking the police why they are sending them in with no real protective equipment. If they thought this would sooth the situation it has failed.

 
Grassland Blue said:
Allegedly this man George Floyd committed armed robbery in 1998
Between 2002-5 three convictions to do with cocaine.
2007 armed robbery of a pregnant woman in her own home.
When he was killed he was under the influence of crystal meth.
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And your point is ?
 
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