UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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Surely they would not have to go as far as opening the books, as a sworn affidavit from etihad would do if the club (or uefa) requested it nicely.

You’d think so but we know Etihad publically announced the money came from them and if - as we’re led to believe - the Etihad deal is the main crux of the issue then clearly UEFA weren’t having any of it, otherwise it surely wouldn’t have got this far?
 
I wouldn't even accept a fine.

After everything we as lifelong fans of our club have been through, to now go through all this and be slaughtered by the media - and why just because the G14 cartel motherfuckers started to panic and quibble in their cartel uefa donned Y-fronts about an owner arriving on the scene , an owner who wanted to grow a club the right way and build an infrastructure in world football unlike any other!

The same as the G14 did back in the day but never even had a corrupt rule like ffp in place to stop them and their sugar rich owners making them a household name whilst collecting trophies

The cartel fuckers laughed at first at little old Manchester City, along with their so called european royalty brothers who wanted all the proceeds between themselves - then the laughter and chuckling soon started to change to doubt, disbelief and downright horror once Manchester City started on its upward projectory.

The owners of the cartel clubs along with the bigot stance of some in european football then had to stop this at all costs. There was no way they wanted another club to take not only a slice of the pie but push them out along the way. And hence a plan was put in place with their friends within the games governing body - you could liken it to the organisation in a bond movie. SPECTRE seems apt for this lot as their hooked tentacles reach deep and far within UEFA like the octopus.

UEFA is an organisation that is supposed to govern and do what is just and right for the game, they cannot even punish racism and deal with it properly apart from giving out paltry fines and making people stand waving a banner - you think this organisation is going to allow, as they name it, dirty oil money come into the game and be successful ?

I am not saying all uefa are rotten apples because Soriano has said this, we have our friends at uefa.

But we have done nothing wrong, our CEO has said this along with others at the club, so even to accept a fine would be reported of City being guilty.

Fuck the cartel, fuck the hateful eight, fuck the corrupt uefa employees who bow to the cartel.

I hope we win this case and then uefa can have a shakedown and stop the cartel from monopolising the game

Rant over....going for my tea
I always said, from the very first moments we were taken over by ADUG and bacon face laughed at us like we weren’t even relevant and a noisy neighbour nuisance, We will have the last laugh and I believe that now more than ever.

The funniest thing for me though is even if we come through this pathetic period of accusations and organised defamation, I fully expect them too keep trying too tear us apart.
They are the kid that wants too take his ball home and not Let us have a kick.
 
I wouldn't even accept a fine.

After everything we as lifelong fans of our club have been through, to now go through all this and be slaughtered by the media - and why just because the G14 cartel motherfuckers started to panic and quibble in their cartel uefa donned Y-fronts about an owner arriving on the scene , an owner who wanted to grow a club the right way and build an infrastructure in world football unlike any other!

The same as the G14 did back in the day but never even had a corrupt rule like ffp in place to stop them and their sugar rich owners making them a household name whilst collecting trophies

The cartel fuckers laughed at first at little old Manchester City, along with their so called european royalty brothers who wanted all the proceeds between themselves - then the laughter and chuckling soon started to change to doubt, disbelief and downright horror once Manchester City started on its upward projectory.

The owners of the cartel clubs along with the bigot stance of some in european football then had to stop this at all costs. There was no way they wanted another club to take not only a slice of the pie but push them out along the way. And hence a plan was put in place with their friends within the games governing body - you could liken it to the organisation in a bond movie. SPECTRE seems apt for this lot as their hooked tentacles reach deep and far within UEFA like the octopus.

UEFA is an organisation that is supposed to govern and do what is just and right for the game, they cannot even punish racism and deal with it properly apart from giving out paltry fines and making people stand waving a banner - you think this organisation is going to allow, as they name it, dirty oil money come into the game and be successful ?

I am not saying all uefa are rotten apples because Soriano has said this, we have our friends at uefa.

But we have done nothing wrong, our CEO has said this along with others at the club, so even to accept a fine would be reported of City being guilty.

Fuck the cartel, fuck the hateful eight, fuck the corrupt uefa employees who bow to the cartel.

I hope we win this case and then uefa can have a shakedown and stop the cartel from monopolising the game

Rant over....going for my tea
Your quotation about taking “not only a slice of the pie but push them out along the way” is interesting. That is indeed what we are doing, This is visibly demonstrated by all the purchase of overseas clubs and putting them under the city group. It makes you wonder, if we just went for a slice of pie maybe the cartel would have begrudgingly accept us rather than fight as dirty as they are doing.

Anyway I hope you enjoyed your tea!
 
Thanks to FFP the Bundesliga has become a Micky Mouse league like Scotland. The rules are set up to ensure that no one is ever allowed to challenge Bayern and they win the title virtually every season. Meanwhile German fans slaughter clubs like Leipzig, Wolfsburg, and even Hoffenheim who try to challenge the status quo.
German fans are fucking idiots for that.
 
Several thousand more posts on this before July I think,I will say Posts will go to 5000 at least
 
Hmm.

Bayern were actually a Jewish club, from a Jewish part of Munich and had a Jewish president and manager. When Hitler came to power the president was sent to Dachau and escaped after 33 days to Switzerland. The club was denounced as a Jewish club and the brownshirts once beat up the players.

So perhaps not the best target for that joke.

Kurt Landauer, rhe former president was taken to Dachau, yes. He didn't escape. He was allowed to leave because he had served in the German army during WWI. Yes. He moved to Switzerland. It could be termed an escape but since it wasn't a prison break style escape but more a smart thing to do I'm not sure "escape" is how you meant it to appear to support your argument.

FWIW, I read my wife and 2 daughters the original quote from the OP. They are Jewish. Their response was so what?
 
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Your quotation about taking “not only a slice of the pie but push them out along the way” is interesting. That is indeed what we are doing, This is visibly demonstrated by all the purchase of overseas clubs and putting them under the city group. It makes you wonder, if we just went for a slice of pie maybe the cartel would have begrudgingly accept us rather than fight as dirty as they are doing.

Anyway I hope you enjoyed your tea!
This is the difference between us and Chelsea. They were attacked in the media for the first few years under Roman Abramovich. The atmosphere changed when he started throwing hundreds of millions of pounds in sponsorship towards UEFA and FIFA, especially via Gazprom. He started playing the game and was accepted into the fold as long as he didn't rock the boat too much.
 
Yeah I know but won’t the lawyers/judges at CAS will be of a similar calibre to the AC ones? If 5 of them at the AC think we are in the wrong then I don’t hold much hope tbh, especially if the AC had seen our “irrefutable evidence” before passing judgement.

City say they ignored the mountain of evidence they gave them but does that mean they looked at it and came to the conclusion it isn’t refutable or they didn’t look at it all.

If the AC did look at it and decide we’re still in the wrong then we’re fucked. Like I said on the face of it they all appear to be highly qualified and respected in their fields and I can’t see the CAS judges coming to a different verdict if you know what I mean.

If we lose now then we are guilty, nothing more simple than that.

Say what you want about UEFA but CAS it's not guilty or guilty the rest is just is fans trying to make out weve done nothing wrong.

Hopefully we win & the rest is history

2 fingers up at the fuckers & we go & sign 5 players & smash £300m spend
 
This thing that both parties are satisfied makes me think it will be a ban but a reduced one. Issue is if any kind of punishment sticks then Premier League/FA is the next one to as the new CEO will be instructed by Pool and United to do us.
 
This thing that both parties are satisfied makes me think it will be a ban but a reduced one. Issue is if any kind of punishment sticks then Premier League/FA is the next one to as the new CEO will be instructed by Pool and United to do us.
City would not be satisfied with any kind of ban.

The statement refers to both parties being satisfied with the process. Not any prospective decision.
 
I don't mind if it's one year ban, instead of two, especially if we win the fa cup and the feckin c.l....new assistant manager, because pep wanted that, makes me feel that we r on the way for more trophies....
 
This thing that both parties are satisfied makes me think it will be a ban but a reduced one. Issue is if any kind of punishment sticks then Premier League/FA is the next one to as the new CEO will be instructed by Pool and United to do us.

By "satisfied" , they just mean that they are happy that the hearing was conducted professionally. It's got to be logged before matters are closed so one side can't come back at a later date and claim foul play.
 
This thing that both parties are satisfied makes me think it will be a ban but a reduced one. Issue is if any kind of punishment sticks then Premier League/FA is the next one to as the new CEO will be instructed by Pool and United to do us.
I think what it means is that both parties accept it was a fair hearing allowing each other to present their cases in a professional way. I don't believe it has any reference to the outcome whatsoever
 
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