George Floyd murder | Clashes between US police and protestors

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Bigga said:
Neil pulled him on his "principles", though and he had a strop, so he was fair game.

Anyway, here's an example of over funding the police...

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Seen in those terms it's well dodgy. Defunding the police is generally interpretated as getting tidy of them or stopping funding, this shows its actually a pretty reasonable ask to spread public spending a bit more evenly.
 
Bigga said:
Yeah, I believe the cops threaten to quit or quit and the crime rate actually went down because of the set up you mentioned!

It's entirely doable, but it's all about power.

Look at this view of our policing...
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There is a huge problem with that and that’s the other 99% of the time when there are only 2 officers trying to deal with that.
 
People need to search out the video of officers getting attacked in hackney today. This is one example of the harsh reality of actual policing. We need the government and the public’s support right now because it feels very much that it’s a free for all against us and that somehow we have become a legitimate target. I’m genuinely concerned that this will end in the murder of an officer.
 
bert38 said:
People need to search out the video of officers getting attacked in hackney today. This is one example of the harsh reality of actual policing. We need the government and the public’s support right now because it feels very much that it’s a free for all against us and that somehow we have become a legitimate target. I’m genuinely concerned that this will end in the murder of an officer.
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Keith Blakelock was murdered in 1985, nothing has changed
 
Scottyboi said:
Bloody hell Ice Cube didn't have him down as an antisemite.
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I'm not sure if he's actually anti-semitic, but I know at the time of the NWA split he was rather bitter about the influence of the group's jewish (and white) manager, Jerry Heller.
 
inbetween said:
I wouldn't say it's something that has been removed from history because I know I was taught it. Ask people whether they know of the slave trade and whether it was wrong and 99% will say yes it was all wrong with the other 1% being knuckle dragging idiots or just thick.

I think what you want is to expose the British part of it but still it isn't something that was uniquely British or a product of British imperialism specifically. The slave trade was the doing of the entirety of Western Europe and then the US, first started by the Portuguese.

I've been to Barcelona and in La Rambla stands a massive statue of Christopher Columbus, remembered fondly for discovering the new world yet he also saw the new world as an import opportunity for slaves..... Should that statue be pulled down? God, even Colombia as a country was named after him, should they rename their country?

What I'm trying to say is this all seems an act of symbolism but is this now a trigger to confiscate and knock down everything that had any relation whatsoever to the slave trade or anything at all related to imperialism? A simple history lesson tells us who these people were and why we shouldn't look so nicely at their statues.

It's not a problem to me but I can see why some will see this as an undemocratic and highly politicised attempt to censure the past.
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